Aren't they condemned?Originally Posted by DawgFight71
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Aren't they condemned?
HA! That's what I'm talking about! Glory days are back again!
All of this could be done over a 4 year time period with no new admissions to the schools that are closing. Those left can transfer. New college students would choose another school. I don't think anyone is suggesting that you fence these campuses up when the decision is made. It has to be a process and that will work out well for Tech.
The state can't afford to close down ULM. Even if they had a satellite campus for Tech over there, you can't justify it. They wouldn't be making good use of that brand new library or the new living quarters. As a matter of fact, all of those towns would struggle because of the loss of jobs and all that space that would go wasted.
We don't ever have to completely close down the school. For example, ULM could just fall under TECHs control. Then faze out all operations except for Pharmacy and the Nursing school. TECH would eventually just operate those two programs, and maybe some other specialized programs, from the Monroe campus. Pharmacy and Nursing programs are probably better served in a more metro area than Ruston anyway.
I probably just wasted the last 2 minutes of my life typing this post because they are nervier going to close any school!
I don't think keeping it open is going to help anything, either.
You start with combining administration and keep the satellite campus. It would save TONS of money. You slowly close them down over a period of time. The faculty will have to relocate to accommodate the students at the main campus.
Gradually, you close the campus and re-invent it. Apartments, city library, etc.... It can be done and done pretty easily - with planning. Some of ulm needs to be torn down.
The alternative is to keep pumping money into a losing battle and cutting across the board - which hurts the successful universities enormously. Would you rather have an EXCELLENT university system with less schools or a poor one across the board with a LOT of schools - that is what will happen with the budget cuts.
Domino one......... He is leaving for a reason. This is the states chance to do something with that money pit.
Close LSU-S, LSU-A, Northwestern and ULM.
Save the money, increase Techs enrollment. The increased enrollment will help across the board.
I agree with you on this. The simple answer is to convert those campuses into community colleges. Simply closing them down is almost impossible because of the building debt that exists at almost every campus. The specialty programs, like the pharmacy school at ULM, could be moved to either Tech or LSU.
You would not be able to save $300 million but perhaps $100 million or more. If the voters of this state would see real movement in higher education reform, there would be much more of a willingness to dip into the "rainy day" fund, which now stands at $700 million.
One more thing. The fact Dr. Reneau keeps a "Do Not Call" list when it come to the AD at Tech has been discussed in the past week in other threads on this board. If Tech had the opportunity to acquire both the pharmacy school and the 4-year nursing program (which we lost decades ago for political reasons), I am fairly certain he could raise the funds necessary to make such a move painless on the state. Including new buildings and endowments for both programs.
And he could do it in a matter of hours.
Louisiana has roughly half of the DFW metroplex population and half the number of 4 year universities of the entire state of Texas. Something has got to be closed or all but LSU will enventually fail. There is just not enough money. Some cities will struggle, but to build any type of educational system that will not just survive but thrive and graduate quality students this has to happen.
A good number of the 31 I mentioned in Texas are satelite campuses of A&M and UT.
That being said I have no faith in the Louisiana government to ever do anything right or hard!!!! Never have never will. I am a teacher and while the system we have in Texas isn't the best or perfect, it's way ahead of most of the deep South.
The school isn't being closed. Cofer would have left if the state wasn't making huge cuts. Every state is cutting higher ed, maybe not as much as LA, but it is a nation wide problem.
Best case, ULM and Delta CC merge, and another 4 year program buys or inherits the pharmacy school.
Realistically, ULM isn't going any where. We might as well get over it. The state might, might close some of the LSU-who satellites, and that doesn't include LSU-Shreveport. The fact that grambling was mentioned as a possible closure is laughable. That was just higher eds attempt to make noise about the overall cuts.
I have stated in other threads that the Louisiana Gov't does not have the balls to do the right thing on this already. I am talking about what SHOULD happen. Coffer did want out, though. Let's see what type of President they can get and if he will fight for survival of the school or be a double agent to close it down. :icon_wink:
I should apply! My job is all about cost efficiencies, quality, and consolidations in the Texas Mental Health System.
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