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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    "....... according to a source close to the Big 12."

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/dallas...w-big-12-align

    It is getting to where "breaking info" sounds like same old same old.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by OLDBLUE View Post
    "....... according to a source close to the Big 12."

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/dallas...w-big-12-align

    It is getting to where "breaking info" sounds like same old same old.
    Interesting comments about the Baylor/TCU debacle.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Wouldn't Boise be up shit creek without a paddle if the Big XII raided MWC and did not pick them?

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgbert View Post
    Wouldn't Boise be up shit creek without a paddle if the Big XII raided MWC and did not pick them?
    No, it'd be similar to the WAC. The two may even merge and they could end up right where they started.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    I can't see the Broncos being left out knowing how the BCS evaluates things. I think the Big 12 could survive AND maintain their AQ status if they made the right selections from the MWC.
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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I can't see the Broncos being left out knowing how the BCS evaluates things. I think the Big 12 could survive AND maintain their AQ status if they made the right selections from the MWC.
    If Texas wants no part of $EC academics, it will certainly have no part of Boise State academics. Besides, Boise State is a one-trick pony...something the MWC will wake up to sooner rather than later. Especially in an MWC that more likely than not won't have Utah and possibly a couple of other members.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    If Texas wants no part of $EC academics, it will certainly have no part of Boise State academics. Besides, Boise State is a one-trick pony...something the MWC will wake up to sooner rather than later. Especially in an MWC that more likely than not won't have Utah and possibly a couple of other members.
    If Texas is still around, I don't think the Big XII will be raiding the MWC. I'm talking about the 5 remaining Big XII schools (KU, KSU, Mizzou, Baylor, and ISU) adding schools to keep their AQ status. Have you crunched the numbers on it yet? Would BYU, Boise, TCU, and Utah do the trick?
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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    The conference changes officially announced so far have no impact on the top four or bottom five conferences in the 2008-2009 BC$ computer ranking average comparisons. The Big 12 stays at #4 and improves without Colorado even also losing Nebraska. The Big Ten improves to #5 adding Nebraska, and the Pac $$ slips to #6 after being weighted down by Colorado. The WAC was already #8 and remains there (barely) even after removing Boise State, and the MWC improves but not enough to move into the top six.

    1 $EC 38.86
    2 ACC 40.32
    3 Big East 42.91
    4 Big 12 45.64 (was #4 at 46.68 with Colorado and Nebraska)
    5 Big Ten 49.06 (was #6 at 50.91 without Nebraska)
    6 Pac $$ 52.14 (was #5 at 49.85 without Colorado)
    7 MWC 53.68 (was #7 at 58.85 without Boise State)
    8 WAC 80.53 (was #8 at 72.38 with Boise State)
    9 CUSA 81.16
    10 MAC 86.01
    11 SBC 94.62

    If you take Utah away from the MWC and add it to the Pac $$, the Pac $$ 2008-2009 average would be 49.02 (back up to #5), while the MWC would slip back to 58.00 (only up from 58.85 before Boise State). That gap to me is still too big for the poor MWC to get a seat at the BC$ table.
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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Taking the mythical Big 12 Five adding BYU, Boise State, TCU, and Utah shows exactly how flawed the entire BC$ ranking methodolgy that would allow Boise State to be included in the MWC 2008-2011 comparison is. That mythical group would be the #3 ranked conference for 2008-2009 at 41.04. But there is no way that group could ever be the third best conference. BC$-worthy...maybe, but #3?

    Time to stop focusing on BC$ and get a full playoff instituted. The presidents approving these conference moves have no legs to stand on with the bogus "missed class time" or any other argument they may make.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    Taking the mythical Big 12 Five adding BYU, Boise State, TCU, and Utah shows exactly how flawed the entire BC$ ranking methodolgy that would allow Boise State to be included in the MWC 2008-2011 comparison is. That mythical group would be the #3 ranked conference for 2008-2009 at 41.04. But there is no way that group could ever be the third best conference. BC$-worthy...maybe, but #3?

    Time to stop focusing on BC$ and get a full playoff instituted. The presidents approving these conference moves have no legs to stand on with the bogus "missed class time" or any other argument they may make.


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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    I just spoke to a MAJOR insider from a prominent Big12 school. Enough of an insider that he has recieved calls from the chancellor and AD. He got a call from his athletic director this morning to update him. The Big 12 is disolved as of tomorrow morning. Done deal. No invitations from PAC 10, but they are expected soon. I asked if there was mention of SEC and UT/A&M. He said no comments about that situation were made. There is a meeting of large donors for this university on Monday morning in Dallas.

    It has begun!
    Good Call on the Big 12 dissolving.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    BVDV needs to get on the horn quick and start talking us up. We have a great shot at joining CUSA if the remnants of the Big 12 recruit a current member of that conference. I think we have an even better shot at joining the old Big 12 and recruiting others to join up.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    BVDV needs to get on the horn quick and start talking us up. We have a great shot at joining CUSA if the remnants of the Big 12 recruit a current member of that conference. I think we have an even better shot at joining the old Big 12 and recruiting others to join up.
    I'm sure he is doing everything he can. At this point, it seems to me that would be keeping up-to-date on what is going on and keeping in contact with as many people as he can.

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    Re: Big 12 is GONE!

    Bruce has connections at 3 of the 5 Big 12 schools that would remain in the Big 12 if the 5 leave. I feel good about him being our AD.

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