Univ. of Houston to MWC?

[JDubyadawg]

There has been a lot of underground rumbling at U of Houston the past week to ten days regarding Houston going to MWC.

Of course most of it has to do with TCU going to the Big East. My sources with Houston tell me that they hear that TCU going Big East has been a done deal but the deal is stalled not because all the "T"s haven't been crossed or "I''s dotted with TCU admin. and the Big East but because of pressure from alum and DFW area supporters who simply don't want it. It's a "Texas" thing - "we ain't the EAST in nothing" attitude.

MWC is also pulling out all of the stops to keep TCU there - mostly having to do with a promise of possible perks in the MWC tv contract that is coming up for negotiation. Houston going to MWC as the 12th member or Houston and SMU going there as 11th and 12th members if TCU leaves. MWC would rather have TCU stay but since SMU is on the rebound many believe that losing TCU can be compensated for in the long run with SMU in the DFW tv market.

MWC Commissioner Thompson receives a lot of criticism but give him and the member institution presidents and AD's for working every angle they can at the moment to build their conference.

CUSA is where we need and want to be but CUSA is under the gun with possibly losing Houston, SMU and U of Central Florida if they are not careful. UCF is a popular choice with many in the Big East because of football but many are not to thrilled with them because they basically suck in basketball and the Big East loves their basketball.

[Soonerdawg]

TCU to the Big East is so stupid that I won't believe it until it happens. If that stupidness happens, then the Big East is even more unstable.

[JDubyadawg]

TCU to the Big East is so stupid that I won't believe it until it happens. If that stupidness happens, then the Big East is even more unstable.

I agree but it's a popular idea with the "decision makers" at TCU but very unpopular with the "influencers" (alumni and DFW area supporters).

[Soonerdawg]

I agree but it's a popular idea with the "decision makers" at TCU but very unpopular with the "influencers" (alumni and DFW area supporters).

You are right. It might happen. Arrogance can cause some very stupid decisions Also, TCU has proven it is not loyal. They might go, but it would be a damned stupid move for all involved.

[LookingForResults]

I agree but it's a popular idea with the "decision makers" at TCU but very unpopular with the "influencers" (alumni and DFW area supporters).

If TCU stays in the MWC, would the MWC take Utah St., UTEP or Houston to get to twelve teams? If it's Houston or UTEP, we're in CUSA guaranteed. If it's Utah St., then the Big East has to look to Central Florida. In that case, we're probably 60/40 in with CUSA.

[Soonerdawg]

If TCU stays in the MWC, would the MWC take Utah St., UTEP or Houston to get to twelve teams? If it's Houston or UTEP, we're in CUSA guaranteed. If it's Utah St., then the Big East has to look to Central Florida. In that case, we're probably 60/40 in with CUSA.

Don't you think that if they do the confederacy, that CUSA would condition the deal on UTEP swapping?

[LookingForResults]

A confederacy for what? Doesn't make any sense.

[JDubyadawg]

You are right. It might happen. Arrogance can cause some very stupid decisions Also, TCU has proven it is not loyal. They might go, but it would be a damned stupid move for all involved.

I think the "influencers" will win at TCU. They have a lot of them with a lot of bucks and they are not hesitant to take credit for the success they have had in the last few years.

TV TV TV TV is driving so much of this right now and the "confederacy" between CUSA and TCU has to do with that. One big tv deal for both conferences but it is going to be tough to pull it off at the moment.

[Soonerdawg]

A confederacy for what? Doesn't make any sense.

Explained it on the other thread. It isn't a merger. Both conferences would retain full autonomy. It would be an agreement to work together to get one new BCS bid awarded to one of the two conferences. I call that a confederacy. An alliance is probably a more current term.

[LookingForResults]

Explained it on the other thread. It isn't a merger. Both conferences would retain full autonomy. It would be an agreement to work together to get one new BCS bid awarded to one of the two conferences. I call that a confederacy. An alliance is probably a more current term.

I answered on the other thread!

[LookingForResults]

I think the "influencers" will win at TCU. They have a lot of them with a lot of bucks and they are not hesitant to take credit for the success they have had in the last few years.

TV TV TV TV is driving so much of this right now and the "confederacy" between CUSA and TCU has to do with that. One big tv deal for both conferences but it is going to be tough to pull it off at the moment.

Won't happen. The BCS won't let it happen. Do you really think there's a big TV demand for a game between TCU or Boise and say, Southern Miss.? If they're having a hard to getting into the BCS now, how is beating a CUSA team going to suddenly provide an automatic bid?

[JDubyadawg]

The one TV deal for both conferences is something everyone knows makes sense.
It isn't PAC 10, The Big Ten Network, or the SEC but it's close to being the next best thing. The future of the Big 12 is also playing a part in this but thanks to the ego of the almighty U of T at Austin, that whole deal is just screwed up and taking a back seat at the moment.

University presidents (who are never wrong about anything), University AD's ( who kiss university president's asses every day), conference commissioners who need to answer to everyone need to take a deep breath and figure out how to do it. The business people (TV and their customers - business who buy the ads) are waiting and want this to happen.

Where La Tech ends up in this.........let us pray

[LookingForResults]

Sorry, as much as I want to be in CUSA, there are precious few that are waiting to see a game between a re-formed MWC and CUSA.

[JDubyadawg]

Sorry, as much as I want to be in CUSA, there are precious few that are waiting to see a game between a re-formed MWC and CUSA.

I would agree but with the continued success of TCU and Boise St. - those are game changers and more than just lipstick on a pig. I also don't think the ultimate goal of this an Automatic Qualifier for these conferences. They may talk and definitely want it and feel it is deserved but as most of us recognize - BCS isn't going to be changed until "real politics" makes it happen.

[champion110]

I think TCU jumps, unless they are in back room talks with B12 right now. Going to an AQ conference makes all the difference in the world. $$$$$ And, TCU would beat up on Big East opponents. It could hurt recruiting a little, though - not much. TCU wants separation. They got a little of that with MWC, but they want more and being AQ gives them a chance to really say they are a legit option to the big names in Texas.

Even though the geography doesn't make sense, TCU will jump and UTEP or Houston will go MWC. I don't think SMU will get a serious look. MWC is better than CUSA in looking at how much a school can carry a market. CUSA sees big city/big market. MWC looks at how much potential the team really can carry that big market. UTEP and Houston have potential to carry a bigger market. El Paso is separated from the rest of Texas and can build a big following with success. Houston has an upside and has made some inroads to that market. With MWC, they can do more, because they will separate themselves from SMU.

All of this is in flux, though, and will be for a while. That is why the panic on this board is so absurd. Lots of time and lots of movement left. We will enter the mix at some point. CUSA is not stable and we will be going after any spots that open up - with a good chance of getting it.