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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    The Donald:

    It will be truly great HealthCare that will work for America. Also, Republicans will always support Pre-Existing Conditions.

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    In a Free Market system those with PEC can get HC insurance. The monthly premiums might be something like $20,000 but hey! they can get it. Or, most insurance companies, if not all, might reject the application. And why shouldn't they? Life Insurance providers base their premiums and often REJECT applications based on the financial risk of the person. HC insurance companies need to do the same thing.

    If you, and others, have a problem with this then YOU start your own insurance company. Raise capital and offer the only PEC policy in the nation. Just think, you'll capture that whole segment of the market. Heck! I would even become one of your customers, if my doctor tells me, OMG! you have a bad condition that will require a lot of very expensive treatments. I'll say, hold that thought Doc, I'll be back. Then I'll dash out and purchase HC insurance with PEC.

    And, while you're at it, can your company also all other insurances for everything else: auto, homeowners, life.

    I want to buy homeowners insurance with PEC...my house just burned down, so after I pay just one monthly premium, of say, $250, I expect your company to rebuild my $400K house. After you do, I'll cancel my insurance until I need it again. Thankyaverymuch!

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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    The cowardly politicians have sold out to the pre-x clause. No way around that now. No matter what solutions are provided the socialist and RINOs will be opposed.
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Society has already decided that people with pre-x should get quality affordable healthcare.

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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The cowardly politicians have sold out to the pre-x clause. No way around that now. No matter what solutions are provided the socialist and RINOs will be opposed.
    Trump's a cowardly politician now?
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Society has already decided that people with pre-x should get quality affordable healthcare.
    indoctrination met PC
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Society has already decided that people with pre-x should get quality affordable healthcare.
    And...they can, for a premium of $20,000/month.

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    Oh, just a note, I grabbed that $20K figure out of the air, so don't ask for a link or something.

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    $2000 is not far fetched at all. That's for a healthy person who has good genes and takes good care of themselves. Socialist believe those should pay extra for all the drug heads, smokers, and people who want their sex changed back and forth.
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Trump's a cowardly politician now?
    I've said that from the start regarding the pre-x clause.
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I've said that from the start regarding the pre-x clause.
    Hes just another cowardly socialist now!

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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    He’s just another cowardly socialist now!
    No, just in a game he is not used to playing. If you recall, I called BS on his political pandering when he got all mushy over the pre-x clause being a deal breaker. I'm not sure anybody in DC would be ballsy enough to speak out against it unless political suicide was on their minds.

    Funny, that Schumer is now pandering to people who think women's premiums (Obamacare tax) should not be higher than men's. I suppose if a person has not decided on a sexual identity yet they get free coverage maybe?
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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    Personally, the best HC insurance we've ever had was the HMO I was in when employed by IP. That began in the late 1980's and we were rocking along merrily until Slick Willy was elected and his douchebag mate unleashed "Hillary Care." Yeah, she got slam dunked and never got her socialist plan hatched. But! that was the early 90's, pre-FOX News and other truth entities, and the commie lamestream media blasted HMOs. Twisted the truth about them, then when that failed, along with commie politicians aka Dems, went on a rant about how "unfair" it was that some Americans actually had good HC insurance at very affordable costs, and some Americans, less than 10% didn't.

    Typical of socialists, instead of saying well, most Americans are okay, leave them be, and let's focus on the 10% who need a helping hand, they seek to wreck the whole system. I suggested way back then a plan I have reiterated a time or two on this forum.

    Take all the $biliions spent on Medicaid and such programs and use it to supplement the TRULY poor, LEGAL US CITIZENS ONLY, with their premiums and co-payments and provide for the means for everyone to purchase their own HC insurance, and be able to buy across state lines just like we can all of other insurance.

    NO MORE government HC programs, NONE! You buy your HC insurance in the open, free market, or go without. Period! Now, as I said, for the truly poor, they will be able to do that because they can seek HELP with affording it. YES, they still have to contribute from their own pocket. But it might be they pay less than $50/month, maybe $20/month, for premiums out of their own pocket, and $5 co-pay for any and all medical procedures, visits.

    A TRUE FREE MARKET will solve all these problems. The government-sponsored pool would act as its own HMO, using its buying power, i.e. numbers, to encourage underwriters to vie for its members. I guarantee with numbers like that, perhaps as many as 30 million people, insurance companies will climb over each other trying to get to the door.

    But then...the real problem will present itself...the poor ole socialists who want to be the pigs of Animal Farm will lose one of their biggest sticks/carrots. No VOTER will care one iota about Pelosi, Schumer, the Four Horseshits of the Ridiculous, Sanders, Warren, etc... people would either not pay any attention or simply say, "shut your mouth and go away." And The Swamp won't stand for that.

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    Re: ObamaCare: A false Promise

    The left and the new right have no desire for free-market solutions.
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