Defense of Marriage Act no longer to be defended

[johnnylightnin]

What do you think would be biblically correct?

I know that God hates divorce (even if there are some provisions for it...those provisions do not mean that he endorses it or is okay with it). The biblical thing to do is to honor your marriage vows. I think we can all attest to the fact that there are times that we don't "feel" like doing that...that's why it's a commitment.

[Guisslapp]

Okay. I know them and from all normal observable indications, they were great husbands. If you choose to believe that they weren't because they struggled with same sex attraction, you're welcome to that.

Asexual marriages are not healthy.

[johnnylightnin]

Asexual marriages are not healthy.

You're making assumptions that aren't justified.

[Guisslapp]

You're making assumptions that aren't justified.

How much man-sex would you have if that were the type of relationships that were Biblically ordained? Are you talking about bisexual, bi-curious, or homosexual men?

[T_Won]

Asexual marriages are not healthy.

But homosexual marriages are?

[johnnylightnin]

How much man-sex would you have if that were the type of relationships that were Biblically ordained? Are you talking about bisexual, bi-curious, or homosexual men?

I'm talking about men who fulfill their obligations to their wives although they struggle with same sex attraction. I don't believe I've been unclear about that.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

How much man-sex would you have if that were the type of relationships that were Biblically ordained? Are you talking about bisexual, bi-curious, or homosexual men?

ask genpoop

[T_Won]

I know that God hates divorce (even if there are some provisions for it...those provisions do not mean that he endorses it or is okay with it). The biblical thing to do is to honor your marriage vows. I think we can all attest to the fact that there are times that we don't "feel" like doing that...that's why it's a commitment.

I think He is OK with it under the provisions you are aware of. If not, he wouldn't have given us those provisions.

[Guisslapp]

But homosexual marriages are?

Some of them. Not all heterosexual marriages are healthy.

[T_Won]

Some of them. Not all heterosexual marriages are healthy.

Agree.

[Guisslapp]

I'm talking about men who fulfill their obligations to their wives although they struggle with same sex attraction. I don't believe I've been unclear about that.

But they are still sexually-attracted to their wife? If so, your scenario is not surprising to me, and I would not consider these men homosexuals. Merely, bisexual or bi-curious.

[johnnylightnin]

I think He is OK with it under the provisions you are aware of. If not, he wouldn't have given us those provisions.

He gave provisions for dealing with sin too...he's not okay with that.

[johnnylightnin]

But they are still sexually-attracted to their wife? If so, your scenario is not surprising to me, and I would not consider these men homosexuals. Merely, bisexual or bi-curious.

Like I said, it's a struggle (just like it can be for heterosexual couples). It is funny though: I say I know men who struggle with same-sex attraction and they have stable homes...you're response: they're not gay enough.

got it.

[Guisslapp]

ask genpoop

I am surprised he has not weighed in. This is the only subject that he actually knows anything about and he has not posted.

[johnnylightnin]

homosexuals (meaning those that are not attracted to the opposite sex but are attracted to their own)

The men I'm speaking of would say that they struggle because, apart from their beliefs about the Scripture, they would prefer same-sex partners. They are convinced that they cannot honor God and have same-sex partners, so they work and struggle to have God honoring relationships with their wives (God honoring includes all aspects of the relationship...including the bedroom).