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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by mentechsters View Post
    4 game series doesn't help.
    4 game series helped Fresno State win an NCAA Championship...

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Maybe hiring an athletic trainer to work baseball with professional baseball experience and/or a strength coach that has professional baseball experience would set the course straight.
    Year in and year out, we have G.A.'s doing the job with not enough experience.
    The engine will only put out what you put into it...

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Rob View Post
    Maybe hiring an athletic trainer to work baseball with professional baseball experience and/or a strength coach that has professional baseball experience would set the course straight.
    Year in and year out, we have G.A.'s doing the job with not enough experience.
    The engine will only put out what you put into it...
    When our AD reads this he will spew coffee out his nose.

    Great idea, but not a chance.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Rob View Post
    Maybe hiring an athletic trainer to work baseball with professional baseball experience and/or a strength coach that has professional baseball experience would set the course straight.
    Year in and year out, we have G.A.'s doing the job with not enough experience.
    The engine will only put out what you put into it...
    You mean someone like this?

    More info on him

    He may not have professional baseball experience but he has SEC baseball experience and is respected in his area.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    4 game series helped Fresno State win an NCAA Championship...
    Not sure that you can justify this statement. It may not have hurt them, and certainly didn't keep them from winning it all. However, to say it helped them is a bit of a stretch. Sure you can say, well they were the number 1 seed going into the WAC Tourney that year because of all the extra wins in conference. They won the tourney because of their seed and got the automatic bid which began their run to the title. However, we all know this is not logical thinking and the thing that helped them win the title was a wicked hot streak punctuated by some very timely hitting and solid pitching performances. If it was in fact the four game series that was the cause of the Championship, then a WAC team would have won it in '09 and '10.

    Saying all of this, I have never used the 4 game series as an excuse for arm troubles. Truth is, if we weren't playing a 4 game series in conference we would play 3 and a non-conference game each week, still putting our pitchers through the same amount of innings.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUE collar View Post
    Not sure that you can justify this statement. It may not have hurt them, and certainly didn't keep them from winning it all. However, to say it helped them is a bit of a stretch. Sure you can say, well they were the number 1 seed going into the WAC Tourney that year because of all the extra wins in conference. They won the tourney because of their seed and got the automatic bid which began their run to the title. However, we all know this is not logical thinking and the thing that helped them win the title was a wicked hot streak punctuated by some very timely hitting and solid pitching performances. If it was in fact the four game series that was the cause of the Championship, then a WAC team would have won it in '09 and '10.

    Saying all of this, I have never used the 4 game series as an excuse for arm troubles. Truth is, if we weren't playing a 4 game series in conference we would play 3 and a non-conference game each week, still putting our pitchers through the same amount of innings.
    Same amount of innings, yes. But not in a 3 day span. I won't use 4 game series as an excuse, but it definitely adds pressure to arms.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    see changes happening in another forum and do the same here. Really tired of Sims losing streaks. Really hard to get jazzed about baseball anymore with him at the top. Sorry Mentechster but enough is enough. This man is just not producing. And this was supposed to be a good year.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    If there was some way to undo what Stovall did his last 1.5 years and Oakes over his tenure to baseball, I would. Just decimated program in drastic budget and staff. Very hard to overcome those 10 years. We all speak like this is simple snap our fingers, but not that way.

    Don't like this in this forum, but about 10 years of hell with ADs that no one was going to win much. One before Sim would not put up with it and left and Oakes asked it no be released for couple months so he could save some money and release positive story later.
    Compare today to budget in Gravy's last HC year (I think that was 1989 or 90). Excluding team travel which is tied to conference and exclude coaches pay, all other budget items has increased .026 of 1% per year averaged over 21 years. Total coaches pay was less than Gravy's staff last year until Sim was hired and second full-time assistant was added, way after all other programs advance their programs. So Tech still playing some catch up, but Sim fights for things and goes out and raises it himself. Not all, as many funds were given for things the 2 years prior to Sim's arrival that made improvements at field. Bad thing is that Administration sees him do that and thinks they don't have to help and help others that don't go do that much on their own back then. So instead of rewarded, can appear like used against one. Add to step up in conference and competition, big challenge, but I think when you look at all things in perspective from what happened over a long time due 90% to AD and Athletic Administration at those times, good progress has been made, but needs more support to move a little quicker. Example, I whish our recruiting budget was same as ULL than about $10,000 less.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Designated Hitter View Post
    If there was some way to undo what Stovall did his last 1.5 years and Oakes over his tenure to baseball, I would. Just decimated program in drastic budget and staff. Very hard to overcome those 10 years. We all speak like this is simple snap our fingers, but not that way.

    Don't like this in this forum, but about 10 years of hell with ADs that no one was going to win much. One before Sim would not put up with it and left and Oakes asked it no be released for couple months so he could save some money and release positive story later.
    Compare today to budget in Gravy's last HC year (I think that was 1989 or 90). Excluding team travel which is tied to conference and exclude coaches pay, all other budget items has increased .026 of 1% per year averaged over 21 years. Total coaches pay was less than Gravy's staff last year until Sim was hired and second full-time assistant was added, way after all other programs advance their programs. So Tech still playing some catch up, but Sim fights for things and goes out and raises it himself. Not all, as many funds were given for things the 2 years prior to Sim's arrival that made improvements at field. Bad thing is that Administration sees him do that and thinks they don't have to help and help others that don't go do that much on their own back then. So instead of rewarded, can appear like used against one. Add to step up in conference and competition, big challenge, but I think when you look at all things in perspective from what happened over a long time due 90% to AD and Athletic Administration at those times, good progress has been made, but needs more support to move a little quicker. Example, I whish our recruiting budget was same as ULL than about $10,000 less.
    +1000000. Thank you.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Designated Hitter View Post
    If there was some way to undo what Stovall did his last 1.5 years and Oakes over his tenure to baseball, I would. Just decimated program in drastic budget and staff. Very hard to overcome those 10 years. We all speak like this is simple snap our fingers, but not that way.

    Don't like this in this forum, but about 10 years of hell with ADs that no one was going to win much. One before Sim would not put up with it and left and Oakes asked it no be released for couple months so he could save some money and release positive story later.
    Compare today to budget in Gravy's last HC year (I think that was 1989 or 90). Excluding team travel which is tied to conference and exclude coaches pay, all other budget items has increased .026 of 1% per year averaged over 21 years. Total coaches pay was less than Gravy's staff last year until Sim was hired and second full-time assistant was added, way after all other programs advance their programs. So Tech still playing some catch up, but Sim fights for things and goes out and raises it himself. Not all, as many funds were given for things the 2 years prior to Sim's arrival that made improvements at field. Bad thing is that Administration sees him do that and thinks they don't have to help and help others that don't go do that much on their own back then. So instead of rewarded, can appear like used against one. Add to step up in conference and competition, big challenge, but I think when you look at all things in perspective from what happened over a long time due 90% to AD and Athletic Administration at those times, good progress has been made, but needs more support to move a little quicker. Example, I whish our recruiting budget was same as ULL than about $10,000 less.
    Amen

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    So our players aren't up to par because the coach doesn't have enough money?

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    Why exclude winning? That's what draws the crowds. Back in the glory days of Andy Russo, Tommy Joe Eagles, and Leon Barmore the crowds were always good and sometimes great.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1969 View Post
    Why exclude winning? That's what draws the crowds. Back in the glory days of Andy Russo, Tommy Joe Eagles, and Leon Barmore the crowds were always good and sometimes great.
    Wrong thread.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1969 View Post
    Why exclude winning? That's what draws the crowds. Back in the glory days of Andy Russo, Tommy Joe Eagles, and Leon Barmore the crowds were always good and sometimes great.
    Because it's too obvious. Of course the change we would all make is to turn our baseball team into the winner of the next decade's world series.

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    Re: How Would You Change the Baseball Program?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    So our players aren't up to par because the coach doesn't have enough money?

    We all want to win in football, basketball, and baseball. We expect it and blame only coach or coaches when it doesn't happen as that is all we know to do. Most have little understanding of what it takes to have a legitimate contender. Until we put up and administration puts more up, it ain't happening on any consistent basis.

    Football has less excuse recently. Basketball is next to see if all step up to try and turn it around. Other sports are way down on the pecking list. Making change in coaches just to make change without helping fix larger picture really doesn't do much good.

    So most do what they do best, bitch, then bitch some more. We are a country full of entitlement.

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