LHSAA 3A/4A Baseball State Championships

[mentechsters]

Held this Friday and Saturday(May 13-14) at JC Love Field. Should be some pretty good baseball. Big for the city of Ruston and big for Tech.

[PawDawg]

Held this Friday and Saturday(May 13-14) at JC Love Field. Should be some pretty good baseball. Big for the city of Ruston and big for Tech.

Good job by Kyle E., Wade, and all involved.

If it's WO and Ruston on Saturday, you better get there early. SRO

[Dawgpix]

Good job by Kyle E., Wade, and all involved.

If it's WO and Ruston on Saturday, you better get there early. SRO

Copy that!

[CChandler]

Man there are a freakin truckload of people at Love Field tonight, and Ruston doesn't even play until 7. Great event for this area. Place is absolutely packed.

[OmahaDawg]

scores?

[PawDawg]

Ruston and WO got beat. I lost interest.

[kdk008]

3A: Livonia beat Parkview 7-5

4A: St. Louis beat St. Michael 9-8 in one if the most bizarre endings to a game I have ever seen. I'm not even really sure what the ruling was that ended the game. I will try to elaborate when I have more time, unless someone else can explain it.

[mentechsters]

I'll try to explain what happened.

7th inning, St. Micheals down 9-3. They go on a run and score the apparent tying run with 2 outs. St. Louis calls time, brings to the attention of the umps that St. Michaels made a substitution infraction. Umps take run off board and call ballgame (after about 30 minutes). Correct call. Here's what happened. Early in the 7th St. Michaels pinch hit for the catcher. That guy gets a hit, then they PINCH run for him, essentially "burning" him, which means he cannot re-enter the game. Well, St. Michaels bats around and when the catcher's spot comes back up, that same guy that pinch hit earlier went to the plate and hit the game tying single. That guy is out, which makes 3 outs, take the run away. Ballgame.

Tough way to end a state championship game, but it was the correct call.

[PawDawg]

I'll try to explain what happened.

7th inning, St. Micheals down 9-3. They go on a run and score the apparent tying run with 2 outs. St. Louis calls time, brings to the attention of the umps that St. Michaels made a substitution infraction. Umps take run off board and call ballgame (after about 30 minutes). Correct call. Here's what happened. Early in the 7th St. Michaels pinch hit for the catcher. That guy gets a hit, then they PINCH run for him, essentially "burning" him, which means he cannot re-enter the game. Well, St. Michaels bats around and when the catcher's spot comes back up, that same guy that pinch hit earlier went to the plate and hit the game tying single. That guy is out, which makes 3 outs, take the run away. Ballgame.

Tough way to end a state championship game, but it was the correct call.

Sounds like the coaches got caught up in the moment.

[kdk008]

I'll try to explain what happened.

7th inning, St. Micheals down 9-3. They go on a run and score the apparent tying run with 2 outs. St. Louis calls time, brings to the attention of the umps that St. Michaels made a substitution infraction. Umps take run off board and call ballgame (after about 30 minutes). Correct call. Here's what happened. Early in the 7th St. Michaels pinch hit for the catcher. That guy gets a hit, then they PINCH run for him, essentially "burning" him, which means he cannot re-enter the game. Well, St. Michaels bats around and when the catcher's spot comes back up, that same guy that pinch hit earlier went to the plate and hit the game tying single. That guy is out, which makes 3 outs, take the run away. Ballgame.

Tough way to end a state championship game, but it was the correct call.

Here is my question. The coach has to report to the ump that the substitution is going to be made. Does the ump sign off on that sub? Is it something the ump should have caught sooner? Becuase he didn't, none of them did. No one had a clue. It seemed the St. Michael coach was arguing that "you let me do it, not my fault."

[mentechsters]

Here is my question. The coach has to report to the ump that the substitution is going to be made. Does the ump sign off on that sub? Is it something the ump should have caught sooner? Becuase he didn't, none of them did. No one had a clue. It seemed the St. Michael coach was arguing that "you let me do it, not my fault."

No, it is not the umpire's responsibility to catch that type of substitution infraction. He marks down the pinch runner but doesn't check line-up to see who is batting. That's the opposing teams responsibility.

[kdk008]

No, it is not the umpire's responsibility to catch that type of substitution infraction. He marks down the pinch runner but doesn't check line-up to see who is batting. That's the opposing teams responsibility.

Got it. It seems like that should have been pretty cut and dry. Wonder why it took over 30 minutes and 10 people to get it straight.

[KDawg33]

But he pinch hit for the catcher that would make him the catcher, correct? And when he had a runner it was a courtesy runner and not a pinch runner, correct? This allows him to re-enter the game.

[KDawg33]

And people will always forget how with 2 outs they struck the guy out and and St. Louis began to run on the field but the cather dropped it and the catchters throw to 1rst wasn't scooped up and caught which allowed a runner to score to make it 9-8 and the batter reached 1rst safely. Great game, but bad ending. But both players and coaches handled it all with great manner.

[mentechsters]

But he pinch hit for the catcher that would make him the catcher, correct? And when he had a runner it was a courtesy runner and not a pinch runner, correct? This allows him to re-enter the game.

No, it doesn't make him the catcher. You must establish yourself as the catcher by actually playing that position defensively. That was actually the coaches argument I believe. But it's just not right. You are correct, it was handled with class by both sides.