John Boehner: Debt Ceiling is Obama's problem

[Guisslapp]

That's where you're wrong. I was not happy with Obama when he extended the Bush tax cuts. People like you claimed it would be the end of the world if the tax cuts were not extended and that there would be no job creation. What happens? NO job creation. The reason is exactly what I stated. The rich will do nothing but sit on the money benefitting no one but themselves. Big Business have got you guys suckered with that trickle down economics crap. It just doesn't work. It is ironic though because big business will be the very reason you teapublicans buckle in this very foolish game you're playing. The U.S. defaulting will spank Wall Street on the ass very hard and when Wall Street sees that Obama is serious, they'll be calling up their republican buddies and telling them make the deal or else.

You are really feeble minded. You lap up Democrat smegma like its the finest Brie de Melun.

[Abominable Gorilla]

Make sure you specify "raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans"....not the public in general. Teapublicans are all about protecting the rich, they care nothing about ordinary Americans. You guys think protecting the rich will solve all of our problems but you're just wrong. If that were the case, the economy would have been booming under George Bush instead near collapse.

I asked this question before and I'm really curious what your answer will be. It doesn't really apply to this quote except you're doing it again. Interesting, imho, how your style of debate is so similar to TeaTech's.

If it's ok to generalize one group of people, then it's ok to do it to any group of people. Genpop, can you please explain to me why that statement is inaccurate. Otherwise, your title could just as easily say "women shouldn't own guns."

[genpop]

I asked this question before and I'm really curious what your answer will be. It doesn't really apply to this quote except you're doing it again. Interesting, imho, how your style of debate is so similar to TeaTech's.

If it's ok to generalize one group of people, then it's ok to do it to any group of people. Genpop, can you please explain to me why that statement is inaccurate. Otherwise, your title could just as easily say "women shouldn't own guns."

Dont know who teatech is. Must have been a pretty popular guy here though. To answer your question, most of you guys are either republicans, teapublicans, or closet teapublicans. It is very noticeable in your posts and how you want to protect the wealthy.

[T_Won]

Dont know who teatech is. Must have been a pretty popular guy here though. To answer your question, most of you guys are either republicans, teapublicans, or closet teapublicans. It is very noticeable in your posts and how you want to protect the wealthy.

Interesting choice of words.

Protect: to defend or guard from attack, invasion, loss, annoyance, insult, etc.; cover or shield from injury or danger.

Is this not our duty against tyrants? First they came for the rich....

[JuBru]

genpop, can you ever answer the question asked? You are worse than politicians and lawyers when it comes to that. Either add to the discussion or STFU & GTFO.

[saltydawg]

That's where you're wrong. I was not happy with Obama when he extended the Bush tax cuts. People like you claimed it would be the end of the world if the tax cuts were not extended and that there would be no job creation. What happens? NO job creation. The reason is exactly what I stated. The rich will do nothing but sit on the money benefitting no one but themselves. Big Business have got you guys suckered with that trickle down economics crap. It just doesn't work. It is ironic though because big business will be the very reason you teapublicans buckle in this very foolish game you're playing. The U.S. defaulting will spank Wall Street on the ass very hard and when Wall Street sees that Obama is serious, they'll be calling up their republican buddies and telling them make the deal or else.

+1000

[Abominable Gorilla]

Dont know who teatech is. Must have been a pretty popular guy here though. To answer your question, most of you guys are either republicans, teapublicans, or closet teapublicans. It is very noticeable in your posts and how you want to protect the wealthy.

So, in other words, you believe it is ok to generalize people based on the actions of members of that group? Is that an accurate statement?

[DocMarvin362]

If you think the deficit problem can be solved without increasing revenue, please list the spending cuts you would make to solve the deficit problem.

Fix tax loop holes which allow multi-billion $ corporations to pay little to no taxes, limit welfare to a 4 year program, increase the SSI age, NO BAILOUTS for ANYONE, NO MORE stimulus, NO MORE extra money printing (inflating the $), STOP GIVING to foreign countries/organizations (IMF, etc.), 25% cuts to medicare & medicaid, etc.


The Repub's that are in charge are doing nothing but sticking their feet ankle deep in their mouths. The best thing that they can do is shut up and get a deal done. The debt ceiling has been raised many, many times; including 8 of the last 10 years. This is a congressional problem that both parties need to get this done, take their licks and move onto the next issue.

[genpop]

So, in other words, you believe it is ok to generalize people based on the actions of members of that group? Is that an accurate statement?

No that is not an accurate statement. We both know that wouldn't be a fair assessment of any individual. However, the vast majority of the posters on this forum are right wing fanatics. Therefore it is safe to assume the reaction/response of any one poster will be more than likely right wing fanatical in nature. Of course, common people such as yourself may pop up and respond sometimes but that doesn't change the fact that this board is far far right. You're outnumbered dude and no amount of posts by you will change the tendency of this forum.

[genpop]

Fix tax loop holes which allow multi-billion $ corporations to pay little to no taxes, limit welfare to a 4 year program, increase the SSI age, NO BAILOUTS for ANYONE, NO MORE stimulus, NO MORE extra money printing (inflating the $), STOP GIVING to foreign countries/organizations (IMF, etc.), 25% cuts to medicare & medicaid, etc.


The Repub's that are in charge are doing nothing but sticking their feet ankle deep in their mouths. The best thing that they can do is shut up and get a deal done. The debt ceiling has been raised many, many times; including 8 of the last 10 years. This is a congressional problem that both parties need to get this done, take their licks and move onto the next issue.

Wow! When you right wingers start sounding reasonable, it makes me feel that there is some hope for you guys after all. This is exactly what needs to be done.

[T_Won]

Wow! When you right wingers start sounding reasonable, it makes me feel that there is some hope for you guys after all. This is exactly what needs to be done.

I agree with his proposal as well and if you and I can agree on a solution, I don't see why Obama and Boehner can't.

The problems the left would have are the "no new taxes" and the 25% cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and limiting Welfare to 4 yrs.

[genpop]

I agree with his proposal as well and if you and I can agree on a solution, I don't see why Obama and Boehner can't.

The problems the left would have are the "no new taxes" and the 25% cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

That is essentially Obama's plan. However the teapublicans are calling the closing of the loopholes "tax increases". Basically you can't understand why Boehner cant agree. He can't because the right wing extremists tea party caucus.

[LookingForResults]

Fix tax loop holes which allow multi-billion $ corporations to pay little to no taxes, limit welfare to a 4 year program, increase the SSI age, NO BAILOUTS for ANYONE, NO MORE stimulus, NO MORE extra money printing (inflating the $), STOP GIVING to foreign countries/organizations (IMF, etc.), 25% cuts to medicare & medicaid, etc.


The Repub's that are in charge are doing nothing but sticking their feet ankle deep in their mouths. The best thing that they can do is shut up and get a deal done. The debt ceiling has been raised many, many times; including 8 of the last 10 years. This is a congressional problem that both parties need to get this done, take their licks and move onto the next issue.

This is complete crap. The issue is not the raising of the debt ceiling. The issue is about finally making a stand against continually having to raise the ceiling; about limiting how much of our money the government will demand; and about halting the growth of that government that grows primarily by elimination of the middle class. It is not congress that will "take their licks," it is you and me who will take the lick in the form of higher taxes, a stagnant economy, and less upward mobility. Meanwhile, congress will preserve its fabulous retirement system and its independent health care system.

If this issue is not addressed, there is no meaningful "next issue" toward which it is worth moving. GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!!

[T_Won]

That is essentially Obama's plan. However the teapublicans are calling the closing of the loopholes "tax increases". Basically you can't understand why Boehner cant agree. He can't because the right wing extremists tea party caucus.

I can't find a link that says taxes will not be increased. Do you have one?

[genpop]

This is complete crap. The issue is not the raising of the debt ceiling. The issue is about finally making a stand against continually having to raise the ceiling; about limiting how much of our money the government will demand; and about halting the growth of that government that grows primarily by elimination of the middle class. It is not congress that will "take their licks," it is you and me who will take the lick in the form of higher taxes, a stagnant economy, and less upward mobility. Meanwhile, congress will preserve its fabulous retirement system and its independent health care system.

If this issue is not addressed, there is no meaningful "next issue" toward which it is worth moving. GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!!

Which would you rather? Higher taxes for the top 2% wealthy or devastate the whole country with much higher interest rates and home devaluation?