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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    You guys need to read this one in it's entirety. See link for rest of the article.

    Saudis, Gulf states on war alert for early US-Iran clash

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 5, 2012, 10:35 AM (GMT+02:00)

    The armies of Saudi Arabia and fellow Gulf Cooperation Council states stood ready Thursday Jan. 5, for Washington to stand up to Iranian threats and send an aircraft carrier or several warships through the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf. Riyadh has been leaning hard on the Obama administration not to let Tehran get away with its warning to react with "full force" if the USS Stennis aircraft carrier tried to reenter the Gulf or Iran's pretensions to control the traffic transiting the world's most important oil route.
    Wednesday night, the Iranian parliament began drafting a bill prohibiting foreign warships from entering the Gulf without Tehran's permission.
    debkafile's Washington sources report that Saudi Arabia has warned the Obama administration that Iranian leaders mean what they say; their leaders are bent on provoking a military clash with the United States at a time and place of their choosing, rather than leaving the initiative to Washington. To this end, Iranian officials are ratcheting up their belligerence day after day.
    Notwithstanding their military inferiority, the Iranians believe they can snatch a measure of success from a military confrontation, just as the Lebanese Hizballah did in the 2006 war against Israel. In any case, they expect any clash to be limited – at least at first. The two sides will begin by feeling for the opposite side's weaknesses while endeavoring to hold the line against a full-blown war.
    America's failure to rise to Iran's challenge will confirm its rulers in the conviction that the US is a paper tiger and encourage them to press their advantage for new gains.
    http://www.debka.com/article/21620/


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    Thousands of US troops land in Israel. Aircraft carrier coming soon
    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 6, 2012, 6:41 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Thousands of US troops began descending on Israel this week. Senior US military sources told debkafile Friday, Jan. 6 that many would be staying up to the end of the year as part of the US-IDF deployment in readiness for a military engagement with Iran and its possible escalation into a regional conflict. They will be joined by a US aircraft carrier. The warplanes on its decks will fly missions with Israeli Air Force jets. The 9,000 US servicemen gathering in Israel in the coming weeks are mostly airmen, missile interceptor teams, marines, seamen, technicians and intelligence officers.
    The incoming American soldiers are officially categorized as participants in Austere Challenge 12, the biggest joint US-Israeli war game ever held.
    The maneuver was originally designated Juniper Stallion 2012. However, the altered name plus the comment heard from the exercise's commander, US Third Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank Gorenc, during his visit two weeks ago, that the coming event is more a "deployment" than an "exercise," confirmed that Washington has expanded its mission. The joint force will now be in place ready for a decision to attack Iran's nuclear installations or any war emergency.

    http://www.debka.com/article/21629/

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    Iran plans one-kiloton underground nuclear test in 2012
    DEBKAfile Special Report January 10, 2012, 11:19 AM (GMT+02:00)

    According to debkafile's Iranian sources, Tehran is preparing an underground test of a one-kiloton nuclear device during 2012, much like the test carried out by North Korea in 2006. Underground facilities are under construction in great secrecy behind the noise and fury raised by the start of advanced uranium enrichment at Iran's fortified, subterranean Fordo site near Qom.
    All the sanctions imposed so far for halting Iran's progress toward a nuclear weapon have had the reverse effect, stimulating rather than cooling its eagerness to acquire a bomb.
    Yet, according to a scenario prepared by the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) at Tel Aviv University for the day after an Iranian nuclear weapons test, Israel was resigned to a nuclear Iran and the US would offer Israel a defense pact while urging Israel not to retaliate.
    http://www.debka.com/article/21635/

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Do they have anyone that knows about geology? Iran doesn't seem like a place you want to tempt Earth's patience.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Do they have anyone that knows about geology? Iran doesn't seem like a place you want to tempt Earth's patience.
    True Dat!

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Do they have anyone that knows about geology? Iran doesn't seem like a place you want to tempt Earth's patience.
    You been watching too many James Bond movies. Iran is the size of the western United States. Plenty of places to denote a 50 kiloton device underground.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Do they have anyone that knows about geology? Iran doesn't seem like a place you want to tempt Earth's patience.
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    True Dat!
    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    You been watching too many James Bond movies. Iran is the size of the western United States. Plenty of places to denote a 50 kiloton device underground.
    Do you come on our board to just get educated Salty? You don't know squat about geology in general or Iran so why pretend that you do? Here's just a quick pic. and BTW, there earthquake epicenters are very shallow at times and the plate movements can be and are totally different than what's common elsewhere.

    http://www.ngdir.ir/earthquake/EarthquakeMap.asp

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    You been watching too many James Bond movies. Iran is the size of the western United States. Plenty of places to denote a 50 kiloton device underground.
    The make up of the ground and the whole country being a fault line is not a good combination.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Do you come on our board to just get educated Salty? You don't know squat about geology in general or Iran so why pretend that you do? Here's just a quick pic. and BTW, there earthquake epicenters are very shallow at times and the plate movements can be and are totally different than what's common elsewhere.

    http://www.ngdir.ir/earthquake/EarthquakeMap.asp

    So what? You saying that there are no earthquakes in Nevada? Even if a small underground nuclear test trigger an earthquake, so what? Iran is the size of the western United States for crying out loud.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    The make up of the ground and the whole country being a fault line is not a good combination.
    That map that Tyler posted showed the earthquakes for the last 7000 years. A similar map of the western US would probably show the same thing. Both areas have plenty of earthquakes because of orogenesis but the geology doesn't prevent underground nuclear testing. Just look at Nevada.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    So what? You saying that there are no earthquakes in Nevada? Even if a small underground nuclear test trigger an earthquake, so what? Iran is the size of the western United States for crying out loud.
    Your comprehension skills on things of such magnitude of scale and over such large time sequences, and their effects, is so sorely lacking. You need to change subject matter or drop out of this discussion.

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    That map that Tyler posted showed the earthquakes for the last 7000 years. A similar map of the western US would probably show the same thing. Both areas have plenty of earthquakes because of orogenesis but the geology doesn't prevent underground nuclear testing. Just look at Nevada.
    http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showt...01#post1190001

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Getting interesting. Iranian nuclear scientist assasinated with magnetic bomb place by motorcycles:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/s...ert/52494192/1

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    Re: Iran threatens to "block" oil shipments if sanctions proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Getting interesting. Iranian nuclear scientist assasinated with magnetic bomb place by motorcycles:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/s...ert/52494192/1
    Senior Natanz executive slain in Tehran, US Navy, Air Force on Hormuz readiness
    DEBKAfile Special Report January 11, 2012, 12:09 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Forty-eight hours after Iran began advanced uranium enrichment in the fortified Fordo bunker near Tehran, Prof. Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, deputy director of the first uranium enrichment facility at Natanz, was killed early Wednesday, Jan. 11 by a sticky bomb planted on his car by two motorcyclists. It exploded near the Sharif technological university in northern Tehran.
    The pair made their escape. Prof. Ahmadi-Roshan was the fourth Iranian nuclear scientist to be mysteriously assassinated in Tehran in two years. The same method of operation was used in a similar operation last year. Iran has blamed them all on Israel.
    Tuesday, President Barack Obama received the Saudi foreign minister Saud al-Faisal. Their conversation was shrouded in secrecy, although no one doubts it focused on the conflict with Iran and the urgency of keeping open the main export outlet for the world's biggest oil suppliers, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, through the Strait of Hormuz. The crisis in Syria must also have featured in their talks.
    Shortly before the Saudi minister's arrival, US Navy and Air Force chiefs shed some light on preparations for an imminent operation to keep the Strait of Hormuz open to international shipping.
    debkafile's Washington sources report that the White House is bending over backwards to convince the skeptical Saudis that the president is wiling to use military force to keep the vital waterway open, safeguard Gulf oil installations and exports and also prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.


    http://www.debka.com/article/21638/

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