WAC and Sunbelt?

[bluecrew]

Please quit using the extreme talk. It is great you are passionate about Tech but death sentence is over the top. We aren't going to lose our athletic program no matter the outcome of conference. I will go further, when we get our new facilities built we will be way ahead of most SB schools/ especially in state schools. Independence is not a bad thing. Not today when 6 wins will get us to a bowl and with the new facilities it will be easier to schedule home and homes with many schools. Mississippi St, S.Miss, Arkansas, Arkansas St., UAB, South Alabama, Army, Navy, BYU, Houston, SMU, TxSan Antonio, Texas St., Baylor, possibly some MAC schools, Middle Tennessee, W.Kentucky, Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Utep, New Mexico St., Idaho, Utah St., North Texas, UCF, Troy, etc. All teams I think we could schedule possibly home and homes with as an independent.

we will only be an independent if nobody else takes us. Thats comes from a few reliable sources.

[ANODESSEY]

we will only be an independent if nobody else takes us. Thats comes from a few reliable sources.

That's fine. My point is that we will be fine no matter our situation. We can continue to get better and improve. The ultra negative death pull support talk isn't rational it is emotional. While understandable not necessary.

[champion110]

I just refuse to buy into all the doomsday senarios that so many post on here everyday since the Delphi days of this site. I believe we are better than any school in the new wac and the sunbelt. I know were we belong and believe in where we are going. Its gonna happen.

Exactly.......... We need a meter installed on this board that shows red for meltdown and green for elation. The other colors in between aren't really necessary, except for maybe orange (a warning of impending meltdown). There doesn't seem to be an in between on this board. :icon_wink:

[dphindawg]

Please quit using the extreme talk. It is great you are passionate about Tech but death sentence is over the top. We aren't going to lose our athletic program no matter the outcome of conference. I will go further, when we get our new facilities built we will be way ahead of most SB schools/ especially in state schools. Independence is not a bad thing. Not today when 6 wins will get us to a bowl and with the new facilities it will be easier to schedule home and homes with many schools. Mississippi St, S.Miss, Arkansas, Arkansas St., UAB, South Alabama, Army, Navy, BYU, Houston, SMU, TxSan Antonio, Texas St., Baylor, possibly some MAC schools, Middle Tennessee, W.Kentucky, Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Utep, New Mexico St., Idaho, Utah St., North Texas, UCF, Troy, etc. All teams I think we could schedule possibly home and homes with as an independent.

I agree with the need to stop the extremist rhetoric, but going independent would be the worst case scenario. Tech would lose out on money, exposure, and respectability (college football wise on a national level).

Can you name an independent school that isn't a service academy or have a legendary history and religious affiliation, that we would like to pattern our program after.

[ANODESSEY]

I agree with the need to stop the extremist rhetoric, but going independent would be the worst case scenario. Tech would lose out on money, exposure, and respectability (college football wise on a national level).

Can you name an independent school that isn't a service academy or have a legendary history and religious affiliation, that we would like to pattern our program after.

I don't think there is a worst case scenario. There is just what happens. Whatever happens we will be fine. There are better things and worse things but it doesn't help to talk about the bad. We will be fine as an independent. We will be fine in the Wac/Sunbelt/Cusa. They will all have advantages and disadvantages. As an independent, we could become so good as a program that we get our own TV contract/ our own bowl tie in. Think positive, make the best of the situation and circumstances. If you don't think something is possible, it's not.

[RealityCheck]

Can you name an independent school that isn't a service academy or have a legendary history and religious affiliation, that we would like to pattern our program after.

There are exactly 6 Division I independents in MBB...

North Carolina Central, Cal State Bakersfield, Seattle, Longwood, SIU-Edwardsville, and Savannah State.

Football independent status is not an option unless all other sports are in a conference.

[dawgs1]

I don't think there is a worst case scenario. There is just what happens. Whatever happens we will be fine. There are better things and worse things but it doesn't help to talk about the bad. We will be fine as an independent. We will be fine in the Wac/Sunbelt/Cusa. They will all have advantages and disadvantages. As an independent, we could become so good as a program that we get our own TV contract/ our own bowl tie in. Think positive, make the best of the situation and circumstances. If you don't think something is possible, it's not.

I just cannot believe that you would think that being independent would be worse than being in the SBC. Where were you when we were in 1-AA & played those games? They sucked & not many of our alumni are going to keep driving from Dallas, Houston, Little Rock, etc. to see those kind of games.

If we can place the other sports in the Southland we will be fine. When we play the other independents we will be on tv & by not playing belch teams we will have more people in the stands. We just have to keep growing it. We do need to get a sports network deal established though. This would help a bunch. Kind of like Hawaii, Boise & Fresno have with their local tv stations & then the games can be picked up by game plan or other networks. It can be done. I am starting to agree with some others on this board about a lack of activity with the administration in Ruston. There are many things that we could & should be doing but we are not. This scares me.

[bjl9981]

I don't know if I'd prefer the belt over independant, but I don't think going to the southland is better the the sunbelt.

[parisdog]

Please quit using the extreme talk. It is great you are passionate about Tech but death sentence is over the top. We aren't going to lose our athletic program no matter the outcome of conference. I will go further, when we get our new facilities built we will be way ahead of most SB schools/ especially in state schools. Independence is not a bad thing. Not today when 6 wins will get us to a bowl and with the new facilities it will be easier to schedule home and homes with many schools. Mississippi St, S.Miss, Arkansas, Arkansas St., UAB, South Alabama, Army, Navy, BYU, Houston, SMU, TxSan Antonio, Texas St., Baylor, possibly some MAC schools, Middle Tennessee, W.Kentucky, Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Utep, New Mexico St., Idaho, Utah St., North Texas, UCF, Troy, etc. All teams I think we could schedule possibly home and homes with as an independent.

Dude you're smoking crack if you think some of these teams would schedule a home and home with us, esp arkansas.

[dawgs1]

I don't know if I'd prefer the belt over independant, but I don't think going to the southland is better the the sunbelt.

I said put the other sports in the Southland. Basketball, baseball, softball, tennis, golf, volleyball, track...

This would save on travel & still give out teams the opportunity to play for a conference championship & post-season play like Hawaii & BYU did.

[dawgs1]

Dude you're smoking crack if you think some of these teams would schedule a home and home with us, esp arkansas.

Arkansas might schedule a Little Rock & Shreveport home & home. They won't come to Ruston.

[OLDBLUE]

I agree with the need to stop the extremist rhetoric, but going independent would be the worst case scenario. Tech would lose out on money, exposure, and respectability (college football wise on a national level).

Can you name an independent school that isn't a service academy or have a legendary history and religious affiliation, that we would like to pattern our program after.

Dear Lord, listen to what we are saying. Two more years of WACness, but no; we've got to worry about possibly going independent 900+ days away. [I'm just elated to think I have a chance of being alive the rest of this new (2011) year, but to the point:]
We have a very good recruitment effort that seems to be unfolding before our eyes. We have a year under the new offense, more than a handful of talent (almost as good as BD's days). Lets concentrate on seeing the DAWGS make some noise, so, when our time comes, we'll be ready.

This groupthink is getting to me. Stop it!

I'm through now

Think of how far we've come, through a valley or two, but, we are still able to move along. HOW 'Bout them DAWGS!
It's for you '88 Heck YEAH.

[WWDog]

I thought that the Southland passed a requirement for all sports to be in that conference in response to UTSA trying to leave their non-football sports there while they pursued FBS for football a while back. If that is the case, then all this talk of TECH doing the same and independent for football will not happen. Maybe it was just for UTSA but I don't think they would pass a requirement just for one school.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Dude you're smoking crack if you think some of these teams would schedule a home and home with us, esp arkansas.

[student0003]

Please quit using the extreme talk. It is great you are passionate about Tech but death sentence is over the top. We aren't going to lose our athletic program no matter the outcome of conference. I will go further, when we get our new facilities built we will be way ahead of most SB schools/ especially in state schools. Independence is not a bad thing. Not today when 6 wins will get us to a bowl and with the new facilities it will be easier to schedule home and homes with many schools. Mississippi St, S.Miss, Arkansas, Arkansas St., UAB, South Alabama, Army, Navy, BYU, Houston, SMU, TxSan Antonio, Texas St., Baylor, possibly some MAC schools, Middle Tennessee, W.Kentucky, Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Utep, New Mexico St., Idaho, Utah St., North Texas, UCF, Troy, etc. All teams I think we could schedule possibly home and homes with as an independent.

Yep we'll be way ahead of the SBC schools while playing in no bowls and no conference or Ncaa tourneys.