Kerry Rupp fired

[Saildawg]

Does anyone know if the athletic director has had a team meeting with the players yet and their reaction?

[kdk008]

There was a team meeting yesterday afternoon, but the players already knew. Coach didn't get the chance to tell them.

[Saildawg]

Thanks, that is what I guessed!

[Bigdog13]

That's interesting reasoning to solidify a teetering opinion. We can't see the future, and we won't know if this is a good or bad hire until a few years down the road. BVDV can't control how the ball bounces, but he does control many other things. It's Bruce's job to put our coaches and players in the best position they can to succeed. That's how BVDV should be judged.

For example, Dooley set up Dykes with 7 "home" games and 5 "road" games with only 1 at a BCS venue. Dooley was successful for putting Dykes in a position to succeed. However, Dykes failed to take advantage of the situation. It's not the AD's fault that Dykes couldn't decide on a QB or Rufus couldn't fall on the ball in the end zone.

On the other hand, Joakes failed by lining up Auburn, Miami, and Tennessee in a 4-week stretch. Bicknell didn't fail by losing all those games because he didn't have a chance. Joakes didn't throw the pass to beat Bama or call the play to beat Michigan State. Joakes gave Rupp a huge budget increase over what Richard had. Richard failed, but does that mean he was a bad hire? What if he had the resources that Rupp had? What if Bicknell had the resources Dooley had?

Basically what I'm saying it would be foolish to judge BVDV based on this hire.

Not a FB thread but I COMPLETELY disagree with this statement. Dooley set him up with a good schedule but left him w/out a decent QB. Most important position on the field. Other positions like DT, were way below par. I could go on. As far as taking too long to select a QB, maybe, but he wasn't picking from a group of studs. Some of you act like we had Tebow sitting there with Colby and Hakmi and we just couldn't decide. We didn't. There wasn't much there and in the end he picked the best from an overall bad group. Now did he do that too late? Maybe, but after looking at film from his previous seasons I would have been very hesitant to pick him as well. Saying Dooley set him up for success considering his complete and utter failure to recruit certain positions while he was here is a stretch. Dooley as an AD get's an A+. Dooley as a HC?? IMO, over-rated.

[kdk008]

[QUOTE=Saildawg;1062040]Does anyone know if the athletic director has had a team meeting with the players yet and their reaction?[/

The coaches had them up at the TAC early for workouts this morning.

[Dawg06]

Not a FB thread but I COMPLETELY disagree with this statement. Dooley set him up with a good schedule but left him w/out a decent QB. Most important position on the field. Other positions like DT, were way below par. I could go on. As far as taking too long to select a QB, maybe, but he wasn't picking from a group of studs. Some of you act like we had Tebow sitting there with Colby and Hakmi and we just couldn't decide. We didn't. There wasn't much there and in the end he picked the best from an overall bad group. Now did he do that too late? Maybe, but after looking at film from his previous seasons I would have been very hesitant to pick him as well. Saying Dooley set him up for success considering his complete and utter failure to recruit certain positions while he was here is a stretch. Dooley as an AD get's an A+. Dooley as a HC?? IMO, over-rated.

I was talking about Dooley the AD, not the HC. Also, I think we would have gone to a bowl game if we stuck with Ross from the start.

[Bigdog13]

I was talking about Dooley the AD, not the HC. Also, I think we would have gone to a bowl game if we stuck with Ross from the start.

You can't seperate the two in this situation. Dooley left too much of the cupboard bare. If you have a good schedule but a bad team it still doesn't matter. You think if we started Jenkins we go bowling, I think if we had a good QB instead of Jenkins we would have been bowling the year before. He wasn't a great QB last year. He was just the best of a bad group. I agree that Jenkins played the best out of all the QB's last year. I also think he was below average the two years leading up to last year and despite having all of that experience he did nothing to distinguish himself in the scrimmages leading up to the season opener. It's not like he made the decision easy for Dykes and Dykes just screwed up. It's a case of fans having the benefit of hindsight that the coach doesn't have.

[Dawg06]

You can't seperate the two in this situation. Dooley left too much of the cupboard bare. If you have a good schedule but a bad team it still doesn't matter. You think if we started Jenkins we go bowling, I think if we had a good QB instead of Jenkins we would have been bowling the year before. He wasn't a great QB last year. He was just the best of a bad group. I agree that Jenkins played the best out of all the QB's last year. I also think he was below average the two years leading up to last year and despite having all of that experience he did nothing to distinguish himself in the scrimmages leading up to the season opener. It's not like he made the decision easy for Dykes and Dykes just screwed up. It's a case of fans having the benefit of hindsight that the coach doesn't have.

Yes, you can separate them when you are discussing the responsibilities of the AD. Dooley the AD set Dykes up for success. That was his job as AD.

And Dykes did screw up as HC... most home losses since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. :icon_wink:

[Bigdog13]

Yes, you can separate them when you are discussing the responsibilities of the AD. Dooley the AD set Dykes up for success. That was his job as AD.

And Dykes did screw up as HC... most home losses since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. :icon_wink:

I'm not saying Dykes didn't screw up at all. He was a first year HC and was always going to make mistakes and he did. I'm saying he was not set up for success.

And saying you can seperate the two is like saying I want you to cook a meal and I'm going to give you the best kitchen and utensils in the world to cook with. Top of the line appliances. Oh but by the way the groceries are crap. The meat is spoiled and the vegetables have mold all over them. Then when the meal comes out bad you blame the chef and tell him about how great the kitchen was. ....Get it. The two go hand in hand. The same guy was responsible for both the Kitchen and the groceries in it.

Also Dooley the AD should have hired a HC that could recruit better and not try to run an SEC offense in the WAC. Hell a blind squirell would have lucked into a decent QB by accident. I think decent QB's didn't want to play in that offense. And I use the term offense very loosely. What I saw was pathetic. I still remember running up the middle for no gain 3 times in a row at Boise that one year.

[Dawg06]

Also Dooley the AD should have hired a HC that could recruit better and not try to run an SEC offense in the WAC. Hell a blind squirell would have lucked into a decent QB by accident. I think decent QB's didn't want to play in that offense. And I use the term offense very loosely. What I saw was pathetic. I still remember running up the middle for no gain 3 times in a row at Boise that one year.

I think Joakes the AD hired that guy. haha

[kdaniel72]

DR needs to focus on the scholastic mission where BVD needs to focus on the athletic mission. Afterall, that is an Athletic Director's job...isn't it?

Actually the Presidents and the ADs jobs are to raise money. One for the University and the other for athletics!