Troy Edwards on

[ITdrummer]

Troy never had a True Freshman year! But Dykes did have three SEC transfers and solid O Line. In Crowtons first year he did not have that much talent on the field! Jason Martin and a hand full of Joe Raymonds players who were not at the level of what Sonny was given. I just do not see any Troy Edwards or Tim Rattay type players in the Pipe Line. However we are in year two of the Sonny D experiment and I think things are looking Better. I have also not seen the new True Freshman QB that I think will be the starter before the end of the year. I myself wish Taylor Burch would pick football and be given a equal shot at the QB spot.

We had SEC transfers that were headcases. That makes quite a difference.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Well he is one of the best players to ever come from TECH and maybe you should just let it go?

Why?

He had the audacity to not only flip a group of us off but also said "_UCK YOU" to a group of about 10 of us who made the trip to Birmingham to watch em play UAB. Rattay was so appalled by it he came over and appologized to us...

I don't care how good of a player he was, he was an ass hat of the first degree....

[inudesu]

In Crowtons first year he did not have that much talent on the field!

And he won 6 games (and lost to ULL and ASU).

I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Yes, it's the head coach's job to get players, but not until he actually gets hired.

How could Dykes have "got players" like Rattay or Edwards if he wasn't here?

[inudesu]

Why?

He had the audacity to not only flip a group of us off but also said "_UCK YOU" to a group of about 10 of us who made the trip to Birmingham to watch em play UAB. Rattay was so appalled by it he came over and appologized to us...

This is really weird. Is there any context? Like someone knew him or yelled at him or did he just see Blue t-shirts and start cussing?

In the article I referenced earlier in this thread it did talk a lot about how he had changed. He seemed to have grown up a lot.

But, yeah, I do agree with you that just because he was awesome doesn't mean he couldn't still be a jerk and that you have to "let it go." You can be an awesome football player and a terrible human. That isn't breaking news.

[JAB]

I don't care how good of a player he was, he was an ass hat of the first degree....

I must admit, I had never heard of an ass hat before this thread. But it seemed extremely funny to me everytime I read it. I just broke down and Googled "ass hat" and thanks to the Urban Dictionary I now know what it is.

One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. Asshat

[Cool Hand Clyde]

Why?

He had the audacity to not only flip a group of us off but also said "_UCK YOU" to a group of about 10 of us who made the trip to Birmingham to watch em play UAB. Rattay was so appalled by it he came over and appologized to us...

I don't care how good of a player he was, he was an ass hat of the first degree....

What did you say to him?

It wasn't like he was flipping off Mr. and Mrs. Marbury though.

Some players, like Walter Johnson for example, you do not say anything to until the game is over.

Flipping off a group of fans, not good. Coming to play and torching UAB, good.

I'll take the good with the bad in this case. Thank you DFM and crew for getting him in the right frame of mind.

[kdaniel72]

Why?

He had the audacity to not only flip a group of us off but also said "_UCK YOU" to a group of about 10 of us who made the trip to Birmingham to watch em play UAB. Rattay was so appalled by it he came over and appologized to us...

I don't care how good of a player he was, he was an ass hat of the first degree....

Well I understand everything you said...I just hope that people will cut me some slack with ALL OF THE BAD CHOICES I MADE when I was 22 years old and younger. Being 21 and in that spot light can make an ASS HAT out of alot of people.

[kdaniel72]

And he won 6 games (and lost to ULL and ASU).

I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Yes, it's the head coach's job to get players, but not until he actually gets hired.

How could Dykes have "got players" like Rattay or Edwards if he wasn't here?

Crowton had Rattay in his second year? Did he not?

[inudesu]

Crowton had Rattay in his second year? Did he not?

Yes.

And Dykes has not coached a second year.

I'm still not sure what you're arguing.

Are you saying that Dykes < Crowton because Crowton managed to find Rattay and Edwards? There are not many Rattays or Edwards out there.

[Champ967]

Well I understand everything you said...I just hope that people will cut me some slack with ALL OF THE BAD CHOICES I MADE when I was 22 years old and younger. Being 21 and in that spot light can make an ASS HAT out of alot of people.

Well, I know that I certainly never said or did any dumb $hi+ when I was in college ...

[Dwayne From Minden]

What did you say to him?

It wasn't like he was flipping off Mr. and Mrs. Marbury though.

Some players, like Walter Johnson for example, you do not say anything to until the game is over.

Flipping off a group of fans, not good. Coming to play and torching UAB, good.

I'll take the good with the bad in this case. Thank you DFM and crew for getting him in the right frame of mind.

Nothing really, just cheering them on during pregame warmups...

"Go get um"

"No one can cover you"

etc etc....

Nothing foul or derogatory or even joking - we didn't even make any comments about overwiehgt baton twirlers...

[Bigdog13]

Troy never had a True Freshman year! But Dykes did have three SEC transfers and solid O Line. In Crowtons first year he did not have that much talent on the field! Jason Martin and a hand full of Joe Raymonds players who were not at the level of what Sonny was given. I just do not see any Troy Edwards or Tim Rattay type players in the Pipe Line. However we are in year two of the Sonny D experiment and I think things are looking Better. I have also not seen the new True Freshman QB that I think will be the starter before the end of the year. I myself wish Taylor Burch would pick football and be given a equal shot at the QB spot.

I'm well aware of that and that was my point. Crowton didn't even have a player playing at that level during their true freshman year yet you expected SD to magically produce a Troy level player in 1 to 2 months. Please. And Jason Martin was a MUCH better QB than anyone we had on our roster last year.

I respect your opinion but I have never seen the "It's the coaches job to bring in the players" statement EVER brought up after year 1. EVER. Sorry, that's just a silly statement after year one of a new coaches tenure not to even mention that he didn't even have a full recruiting season to work with.

I also think Dooley left the cupboard bare in many places. SD wasn't left with some pool of riches to work with.

[Bigdog13]

And he won 6 games (and lost to ULL and ASU).

I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Yes, it's the head coach's job to get players, but not until he actually gets hired.

How could Dykes have "got players" like Rattay or Edwards if he wasn't here?

Exactly. I have seen that argument used when a coach has been there like 4-6 years and is using an excuse like "we just don't have enough depth on the offensive line" then you think well "Whose job is it to get us depth on the offensive line? Try Again Coach!!"

Again I follow college football pretty close and I have never heard of that statement being used after year one. It makes no sense. That's why I wasn't sure if he was even serious at first. I still think KDaniel might be pulling my leg.

[kdaniel72]

Yes.

And Dykes has not coached a second year.

I'm still not sure what you're arguing.

Are you saying that Dykes < Crowton because Crowton managed to find Rattay and Edwards? There are not many Rattays or Edwards out there.

Well Dykes did sign a Jeff Garcia type QB this year and I hope the Kid comes in and sets the world on FIRE. I am not arguing anything I am just saying that Dykes had more pieces to work with than Crowton. It is only year two and I hope that we win 12 ball games. With Gary I could see the plan he was using. He built his team around Tim! Sonny does not have a QB yet.

[kdaniel72]

I'm well aware of that and that was my point. Crowton didn't even have a player playing at that level during their true freshman year yet you expected SD to magically produce a Troy level player in 1 to 2 months. Please. And Jason Martin was a MUCH better QB than anyone we had on our roster last year.

I respect your opinion but I have never seen the "It's the coaches job to bring in the players" statement EVER brought up after year 1. EVER. Sorry, that's just a silly statement after year one of a new coaches tenure not to even mention that he didn't even have a full recruiting season to work with.

I also think Dooley left the cupboard bare in many places. SD wasn't left with some pool of riches to work with.

I think Dooley had built a Run heavy Pro Style attack and that it is going to take Sonny D time to get his players here. However he has had two years to find a QB he liked and he has yet to find one. I am a TB fan and hope he gets a chance however I think that the True Freshman will start this year at some point. The freshman might be our Tim Rattay!!!!!