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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanDarby View Post
    Good post, but:

    I was not aware the band kept a list of all the wealthy alumni.

    I agree with you that Reneau probably does "want" the band to go. I would just like to see some effort on his part to make it happen. Something bedsides just saying "Well, I sure want the band to go, but we just don't have the money". I would bet he has a better contact list of wealthy alumni and business donors than the students in the band do. And I bet those donors would respond to Dan asking for money better than they would a freshman trumpet player.
    The band may not know, but Robken does. And if he doesn't, he knows who to contact to find out. The point? He's not doing it.

    As for Reneau, who's to say he's not on his phone right now calling people trying to get money? I'm sure he doesn't want to keep receiving email after email from people saying he needs to send the whole band to San Diego. And he can't MAKE people pull out their checkbooks.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanDarby View Post
    Good post, but:

    I was not aware the band kept a list of all the wealthy alumni.

    I agree with you that Reneau probably does "want" the band to go. I would just like to see some effort on his part to make it happen. Something bedsides just saying "Well, I sure want the band to go, but we just don't have the money". I would bet he has a better contact list of wealthy alumni and business donors than the students in the band do. And I bet those donors would respond to Dan asking for money better than they would a freshman trumpet player.
    That made me laugh.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by s-squared View Post
    As a former member, I get lured to these forums about once a year to read the latest discussions about the BoP. I come close to posting, but in the end never do. I for one am of the opinion that the BoP, budget “problems” aside, does a half-assed job. I, like many here, feel this is mainly a band administration problem. BUT, that is not the topic of this thread.

    Now on to the real issue at hand – the band traveling to San Diego. What the BoP members fail to realize is that, despite the effort they put in all year, and despite how much they bitch and moan, Dan Reneau isn’t the FED and can’t just print money to foot the band’s bill. Bowl games (and even athletics) aside, the last 5 years have been a budgetary nightmare for Tech. Tech has managed to carve out a budget that has allowed it to meet its primary purpose – education. And with the support of donors, it has managed to continue to build its athletic programs; however, bowl games and extra travel expenses are not part of that budget.

    Yes, Tech will get a payout from the bowl game. The truth, however, is that the payout will probably not even cover Tech’s ticket allotment. I don’t know how many tickets Tech received, but in 2010, Navy received 13,000. They were able to sell their ticket allotment because the Poinsettia Bowl is played in San Diego, the home port of the Pacific Fleet. Tech does not have that luxury. The purpose of any bowl game is to make money, so it’s safe to say that they want to sell out Qualcomm Stadium (70,561 seats). For fun, let’s say Tech received the same 13,000 tickets Navy did. Tech is selling tickets for $35, $45, and $55, depending on location. So, let’s say they received the tickets for $25 apiece. Just in tickets, that is $325,000 Tech has to cover (I doubt 13,000 people will travel from Ruston to the game). They then have to get the team, equipment, and administration there (Yes, the administration could cover their expenses, but they don’t have to. Stop griping about it. When you’re president of a university, you can cover your own way, though I highly doubt you would). They then have to house, and feed them. Hotels are negotiated by the bowl organizers, so they are locked in on price. All these costs must be met before they even consider the cost of bringing the band.

    Now, let’s look at the cost of bring the band. *****DISCLAIMER – THESE COSTS ARE ESTIMATED**** First, they have to get the band there. Because no organization (aside from probably the football team) is chartering a plane, they must pay the full ticket price. Any search for tickets from Shreveport or Monroe to San Diego will show that you can’t get a ticket for cheaper than $500. For argument-sake, let’s say a ticket price was negotiated for $450/member. $450 x 150 members = $67,500 for airfare (I assume chartering a plane would be close to the same cost). Second, the band needs a place to stay. As I said before, hotel prices were locked in by the bowl organizers. Reserved rooms for Tech fans are locked in at $129/night. Let’s say the band puts 4 in a room, so we’ll book them 40 rooms (I’m sure the directors and band admin won’t be staying in rooms with the kids). 40 rooms x 4 nights X $129/night = $20,640 for hotel rooms. Once the band is in San Diego, they have to be transported to all the events. They will need at least 2 buses. Let’s say the average cost per day of chartering a bus in $1000. So, 2 buses X $1000 X 5 days = $10,000 for transportation. Finally, once they’re there, they’ll need to eat. Let’s say the band is given $30/day for food. That’s $30 x 5 days x 150 members = $22,500 for food.

    Adding all that up, we arrive at a rough estimate of $120,640. I went light on those numbers (I think…), and they don’t include baggage fees (if applicable) and transportation of the band’s equipment (tubas, percussion, euphoniums, and mellophones – everything else can fit in the overhead compartment). Now, they are currently sending 50 band members. That means they are paying $40,213 already, leaving AT LEAST $80,427 for the band to come up with.

    Will the university look better if the whole band goes? Yes! Do I want to see the whole band go? Yes! Does Dan Reneau want to see the whole band go? Yes! (despite the band’s opinion…) But, the fact of the matter is that the university doesn’t have the extra money. If the band wants to go, they need to stop griping and get on the phone to some wealthy alumni, set up a fund, wash a s**t-ton of cars, or SOMETHING. Starting a petition to Dr. Reneau and threatening to take the story to the media will not help, just like sitting on your ass with your hand out won’t.

    +10000

    This is not a slant at the student band members, but is directed at the people that run the band on the administrative side. Robken is horrible and the stuff he does is high schoolish. I think he trys hard, but this aint horseshoes!

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by EngDawg View Post
    +10000

    This is not a slant at the student band members, but is directed at the people that run the band on the administrative side. Robken is horrible and the stuff he does is high schoolish. I think he trys hard, but this aint horseshoes!
    How may folks run the administrative side of the band? Do they even have an administrative dept like athletics?

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    I think someone is mad they didn't get a solo...

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by s-squared View Post
    The band may not know, but Robken does. And if he doesn't, he knows who to contact to find out. The point? He's not doing it.

    As for Reneau, who's to say he's not on his phone right now calling people trying to get money? I'm sure he doesn't want to keep receiving email after email from people saying he needs to send the whole band to San Diego. And he can't MAKE people pull out their checkbooks.
    The same could be said for Robken.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    How may folks run the administrative side of the band? Do they even have an administrative dept like athletics?
    We do have what we call the "admin staff" (I am one), but our job is essentially to be lackeys, carry equipment, set up for meals, yell at stupid band kids, etc.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    How may folks run the administrative side of the band? Do they even have an administrative dept like athletics?
    To my knowledge Robken and his assistant IS the admin side of the BoP. I think one of the main issues is that the BoPO does not have anyone tasked with dealing with these things, other than Robken.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    I think someone is mad they didn't get a solo...
    Here we go.. ole jubru at it again, being a douche.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    WAIT, hold the presses. If the entire BoP was to go to SD then who would stay in town to play for the men and women's basketball games? Surely, there would be a band in town for these ball games even though it's Christmas break. I mean, if you were going to get a trip to SD for the bowl game but weren't one of the 50 wouldn't you still want to support your school and stay and play for the other sports?

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by brentcausey View Post
    Here we go.. ole jubru at it again, being a douche.
    Now why and go do that? I didn't say anything directed towards you, you should return the courtesy.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Robken has been in meetings all morning trying to get an exact number of members we can take. Actual facts from this meeting:
    The bowl gives $750,000 to the WAC and the WAC gives Tech $375,000 for bowl expenses. From that the athletic department is trying to secure two charter flights at the cost of $110,000 each - so that's 220,000 of the budget. If things workout for chartering two planes: each flight has 175 seats - 210 are for the football team, 10 for Dr. Reneau and company, 15 for cheer - leaving 115 for band. Out of that 115, eight are directors, staff, and admin, leaving 107 playing members - a lot better than the initial projection of 50 playing members and half staff, however, we still need help to try to raise funds for an additional 25 members that are able and willing to participate. We would need to raise about 20-25,000 to take the whole band.
    The alumni association has set up a Band Travel Account. The goal is to have this account and fundraise for it, so Tech is never in this situation again. (football and basketball postseason)
    If you would like to make a donation you can contact Lisa Smith at the Alumni Center at 318-255-7950.
    Thank you all who have expressed support for the Band of Pride, thank you for any and all donations. It would be greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by jchaisson View Post
    WAIT, hold the presses. If the entire BoP was to go to SD then who would stay in town to play for the men and women's basketball games? Surely, there would be a band in town for these ball games even though it's Christmas break. I mean, if you were going to get a trip to SD for the bowl game but weren't one of the 50 wouldn't you still want to support your school and stay and play for the other sports?
    The BBall games wont be on national TV with millions of people watching how your university represents itself at a bowl game.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by s-squared View Post
    As a former member, I get lured to these forums about once a year to read the latest discussions about the BoP. I come close to posting, but in the end never do. I for one am of the opinion that the BoP, budget “problems” aside, does a half-assed job. I, like many here, feel this is mainly a band administration problem. BUT, that is not the topic of this thread.

    Now on to the real issue at hand – the band traveling to San Diego. What the BoP members fail to realize is that, despite the effort they put in all year, and despite how much they bitch and moan, Dan Reneau isn’t the FED and can’t just print money to foot the band’s bill. Bowl games (and even athletics) aside, the last 5 years have been a budgetary nightmare for Tech. Tech has managed to carve out a budget that has allowed it to meet its primary purpose – education. And with the support of donors, it has managed to continue to build its athletic programs; however, bowl games and extra travel expenses are not part of that budget.

    Yes, Tech will get a payout from the bowl game. The truth, however, is that the payout will probably not even cover Tech’s ticket allotment. I don’t know how many tickets Tech received, but in 2010, Navy received 13,000. They were able to sell their ticket allotment because the Poinsettia Bowl is played in San Diego, the home port of the Pacific Fleet. Tech does not have that luxury. The purpose of any bowl game is to make money, so it’s safe to say that they want to sell out Qualcomm Stadium (70,561 seats). For fun, let’s say Tech received the same 13,000 tickets Navy did. Tech is selling tickets for $35, $45, and $55, depending on location. So, let’s say they received the tickets for $25 apiece. Just in tickets, that is $325,000 Tech has to cover (I doubt 13,000 people will travel from Ruston to the game). They then have to get the team, equipment, and administration there (Yes, the administration could cover their expenses, but they don’t have to. Stop griping about it. When you’re president of a university, you can cover your own way, though I highly doubt you would). They then have to house, and feed them. Hotels are negotiated by the bowl organizers, so they are locked in on price. All these costs must be met before they even consider the cost of bringing the band.

    Now, let’s look at the cost of bring the band. *****DISCLAIMER – THESE COSTS ARE ESTIMATED**** First, they have to get the band there. Because no organization (aside from probably the football team) is chartering a plane, they must pay the full ticket price. Any search for tickets from Shreveport or Monroe to San Diego will show that you can’t get a ticket for cheaper than $500. For argument-sake, let’s say a ticket price was negotiated for $450/member. $450 x 150 members = $67,500 for airfare (I assume chartering a plane would be close to the same cost). Second, the band needs a place to stay. As I said before, hotel prices were locked in by the bowl organizers. Reserved rooms for Tech fans are locked in at $129/night. Let’s say the band puts 4 in a room, so we’ll book them 40 rooms (I’m sure the directors and band admin won’t be staying in rooms with the kids). 40 rooms x 4 nights X $129/night = $20,640 for hotel rooms. Once the band is in San Diego, they have to be transported to all the events. They will need at least 2 buses. Let’s say the average cost per day of chartering a bus in $1000. So, 2 buses X $1000 X 5 days = $10,000 for transportation. Finally, once they’re there, they’ll need to eat. Let’s say the band is given $30/day for food. That’s $30 x 5 days x 150 members = $22,500 for food.

    Adding all that up, we arrive at a rough estimate of $120,640. I went light on those numbers (I think…), and they don’t include baggage fees (if applicable) and transportation of the band’s equipment (tubas, percussion, euphoniums, and mellophones – everything else can fit in the overhead compartment). Now, they are currently sending 50 band members. That means they are paying $40,213 already, leaving AT LEAST $80,427 for the band to come up with.

    Will the university look better if the whole band goes? Yes! Do I want to see the whole band go? Yes! Does Dan Reneau want to see the whole band go? Yes! (despite the band’s opinion…) But, the fact of the matter is that the university doesn’t have the extra money. If the band wants to go, they need to stop griping and get on the phone to some wealthy alumni, set up a fund, wash a s**t-ton of cars, or SOMETHING. Starting a petition to Dr. Reneau and threatening to take the story to the media will not help, just like sitting on your ass with your hand out won’t.
    There it is. That should put an end to this thread. Money talks and this was a homerun post. It's true.

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    Re: Tech Administration decides to send only 1/3 of the BOP to the Poinsettia Bowl

    Has anyone stated how much money is needed for the rest of the band to go to the game?

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