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    Re: From the negotiating room

    I say increase the buyout significantly, bump the base salary a bit, and add more opportunity for significant bonuses that reward the coach when the university sees significant (financial) benefit. Ten win seasons, BCS bowl games, attendance records, consecutive bowls etc.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by dawgcrazy View Post
    I say increase the buyout significantly, bump the base salary a bit, and add more opportunity for significant bonuses that reward the coach when the university sees significant (financial) benefit. Ten win seasons, BCS bowl games, attendance records, consecutive bowls etc.
    If you insist on doing something, this is reasonable (completely unnecessary, but reasonable). But I'll be surprised if that is the outcome.

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    I don't understand why you guys seem so angry about this.

    It's a good thing to pay a more competitive coaching salary. If the money is not coming from donations to Q4E (like raising money to send the band could), this is a good thing. And of course we need to raise the buyout.

    We can't stop cussing the adm for being cheap before we start cussing them for spending too much money.

    My guess is that SD will get a modest raise with an extension and a modestly raised buy out.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I don't understand why you guys seem so angry about this.
    Are you new here?!

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    SOMEBODY please explain the purpose of the five year contract we negotiate when hiring. These are just to lure them in? It damn sure doesn't protect Tech!

    If a school is gonna get all giddy about winning and a bowl game then why not put something in the original contract?
    I hope Sonny stays, and don't have a problem with them renegotiating- although I do agree with your point. But, if we give him more money I expect the buyout to increase substantially too. If not, we just wasted our money. For continuity we are better off with him staying another year or 2- after that if he is here it is because he is losing and that will not be good. If we get a bigger buyout in the contract that will help us attract the next new coach. If TECH wins we will be the training ground until we get ourselves in a better position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Are you new here?!

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    How about he just keep going under his CONTRACT and what he agreed to....
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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by dawgcrazy View Post
    I say increase the buyout significantly, bump the base salary a bit, and add more opportunity for significant bonuses that reward the coach when the university sees significant (financial) benefit. Ten win seasons, BCS bowl games, attendance records, consecutive bowls etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster View Post
    How about he just keep going under his CONTRACT and what he agreed to....
    I'd agree, but that isn't how it works in college football or sports in general. Schools never, except ulm, let the contract play out. The coach is fired, given an extension, or hired away all prior to the conclusion of the contract.

    I'd be all for letting it play out if coaches generally left to a bigger school after their contract ended, but they don't.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I'd agree, but that isn't how it works in college football or sports in general. Schools never, except ulm, let the contract play out. The coach is fired, given an extension, or hired away all prior to the conclusion of the contract.

    I'd be all for letting it play out if coaches generally left to a bigger school after their contract ended, but they don't.
    The other reason for this is recruiting. When coaches are pitching their school to a kid, the theory is that it helps to have "proof" that they'll be around for the duration of that kid's playing time. If you tell a recruit, come play for us for the next 4-5 years and he asks how come you're only under contract for one more year I guess it would seem funny to say "well, when I finish this contract, then the school and I will negotiate for a new one."

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I don't understand why you guys seem so angry about this.

    It's a good thing to pay a more competitive coaching salary. If the money is not coming from donations to Q4E (like raising money to send the band could), this is a good thing. And of course we need to raise the buyout.

    We can't stop cussing the adm for being cheap before we start cussing them for spending too much money.

    My guess is that SD will get a modest raise with an extension and a modestly raised buy out.
    .. and if it comes from the budgets of MBB, WBB, and Baseball??

    I hope that the increase is all from the foundation. Might as well eliminate the incentives as well since if you do good, we'll just renegotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    .. and if it comes from the budgets of MBB, WBB, and Baseball??

    I hope that the increase is all from the foundation. Might as well eliminate the incentives as well since if you do good, we'll just renegotiate.
    I was thinking along the lines of increases in football money from tickets, sponsorships, something like that.

    I'm not an expert, I'm just saying I don't think it is a waste of money as long as we are not taking away from facilities. I don't know enough about the budget to tell you exactly where it should come from.

    To answer your question, my personal opinion: MBB not ok, WBB ok, baseball ok.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    All of this contract extension is about recruiting. I seriously doubt he gets much of a raise. It's just saying to recruits that Sonny is staying another year. We didn't win the WAC championship because of Sonny's high powered offense. We won the WAC because of great play on defense.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I was thinking along the lines of increases in football money from tickets, sponsorships, something like that.

    I'm not an expert, I'm just saying I don't think it is a waste of money as long as we are not taking away from facilities. I don't know enough about the budget to tell you exactly where it should come from.

    To answer your question, my personal opinion: MBB not ok, WBB ok, baseball ok.
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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I'd agree, but that isn't how it works in college football or sports in general. Schools never, except ulm, let the contract play out. The coach is fired, given an extension, or hired away all prior to the conclusion of the contract.
    One of the best points in all of this. I wanted to raise it, but wasn't sure how to word it. There is a difference between how things should be and how they are. In the world of college football, coaches who win (even though that is their job) get contract extensions.
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