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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by brody191 View Post
    If schools start going after coaches in NON-AQ conf. with one winning season then there is something wrong with this world
    You just described Dooley's time at Tech (& Ole Miss with Freeze)

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    NCAA should regulate coaching changes the way they do recruiting and paid players. Until bowls are all over, no coaching changes should even be discussed. Arkansas State staff has fallen apart. Hope Wolf pups can win in New Orleans despite that madness. Ol Miss should have to forfeit 2012 season for their push to hire ASU coach. OHHHHHH, that wouldn't be a penalty. They don't expect to win any games anyway!

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by aubunique View Post
    NCAA should regulate coaching changes the way they do recruiting and paid players. Until bowls are all over, no coaching changes should even be discussed. Arkansas State staff has fallen apart. Hope Wolf pups can win in New Orleans despite that madness. Ol Miss should have to forfeit 2012 season for their push to hire ASU coach. OHHHHHH, that wouldn't be a penalty. They don't expect to win any games anyway!
    I think any school that hires a head coach who still has time on his contract should have to play at the school the next season (in addition to the buy-out). Imagine the financial benefit to Tennessee in Ruston, USF at East Carolina, etc. It would help compensate the smaller schools. Then imagine USC at Tennessee or Ohio State at UF (maybe); the tv ratings would be huge.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by Abominable Gorilla View Post
    I think any school that hires a head coach who still has time on his contract should have to play at the school the next season (in addition to the buy-out). Imagine the financial benefit to Tennessee in Ruston, USF at East Carolina, etc. It would help compensate the smaller schools. Then imagine USC at Tennessee or Ohio State at UF (maybe); the tv ratings would be huge.

    Nice call.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by BuzDawg73 View Post
    A story in the Wichita paper this morning listed a bunch of candidates. Sonny Dykes was not one of those mentioned.
    Stealth hiring. It gets it's beginings from the famous method of recruiting in which a school pursues a player without the knowledge of other schools and fans.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    It's nice that our HC is getting good press and all, but where the hell is the contract extension?!

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed View Post
    It's nice that our HC is getting good press and all, but where the hell is the contract extension?!
    My thoughts exactly!

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    If we have a coach being poached by a BCS team willing to pay 4X what we are paying the contract extension will fend them off.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    If we have a coach being poached by a BCS team willing to pay 4X what we are paying the contract extension will fend them off.
    We need to build our coaches salary up to 1 million/ year so that when offered by an AQ school it will only be 2x as much as we are paying him. So the coach will have a choice, work for a BCS school (harder schedule more difficult to have success so limited career) for 3 years at 2million/year or work for LaTech for 6-20 years at 1 million/year (with possibility to get to 2 million with a lot of success).

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Did anybody else laugh when they mentioned Peterson as a candidate at Kansas? Sometimes the ego of these bigger schools amazes me.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by Abominable Gorilla View Post
    I think any school that hires a head coach who still has time on his contract should have to play at the school the next season (in addition to the buy-out). Imagine the financial benefit to Tennessee in Ruston, USF at East Carolina, etc. It would help compensate the smaller schools. Then imagine USC at Tennessee or Ohio State at UF (maybe); the tv ratings would be huge.
    While it will never happen, this is a GREAT idea. I plan on passing it along in water cooler chats, giving you credit of course.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by ANODESSEY View Post
    We need to build our coaches salary up to 1 million/ year so that when offered by an AQ school it will only be 2x as much as we are paying him. So the coach will have a choice, work for a BCS school (harder schedule more difficult to have success so limited career) for 3 years at 2million/year or work for LaTech for 6-20 years at 1 million/year (with possibility to get to 2 million with a lot of success).
    Ohhhh, I see.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    What's interesting to me is how someone could be so easy to poach when they already make a boatload of money... There are other intangible things to love about a particular job, once you're making enough money to get by comfortably. For instance, I'm able to post on BB&B at my job and not have to EVER hear any crap about LSU now, and I have a terrific boss with challenging work. Sure, I'd like to make more, but it sure as hell isn't near a million dollars. How many coaches in the past have actually just enjoyed building up where they are and shot down the massive raises and poaching attempts? I know Pat Hill supposedly turned down some money this year, but he's not a raging success either, and now is fired. Is it possible that we could ever have ourselves a Sonny Dykes and just build and build, obviously trying to compensate him the best we can over time as we grow the program, to where he may actually have a pretty nice salary anyway, just by virtue of our success?

    I know this is VERY typically not the case, and I surely don't expect it. I'm just wondering how much precedent there is with regards to this.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Put in Recruiting section.
    Typically don't agree with all of the "move this to recruiting" or "move this to the pit" talk, but I agree on this one. I think it should be in recruiting.

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    Re: My nephew called to say....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktulu7 View Post
    What's interesting to me is how someone could be so easy to poach when they already make a boatload of money... There are other intangible things to love about a particular job, once you're making enough money to get by comfortably. For instance, I'm able to post on BB&B at my job and not have to EVER hear any crap about LSU now, and I have a terrific boss with challenging work. Sure, I'd like to make more, but it sure as hell isn't near a million dollars. How many coaches in the past have actually just enjoyed building up where they are and shot down the massive raises and poaching attempts? I know Pat Hill supposedly turned down some money this year, but he's not a raging success either, and now is fired. Is it possible that we could ever have ourselves a Sonny Dykes and just build and build, obviously trying to compensate him the best we can over time as we grow the program, to where he may actually have a pretty nice salary anyway, just by virtue of our success?

    I know this is VERY typically not the case, and I surely don't expect it. I'm just wondering how much precedent there is with regards to this.
    I think you see the end of this type of situation started about the time the money really started flowing into the bigger schools when you started seeing coaches who consistently won 8-10 games a year but no championships getting fired, just a little before the advent of the BCS. In the current timeframe, the closest precedent I can imagine would be Peterson at Boise St. I know he didn't build the program, but he was there shortly after it started and has stayed the last couple of years despite, as far as the public knows, larger monetary offers. Of course, I have no research to verify any of this. Just going off the top of my head.

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