My nephew called to say....

[Houston Techsan]

At a school like Tech you have a problem which might be similar to Pat Hill's (I believe he was there only about 15 years). If you don't take the raise and run you might get fired. I can only remember Tech firing two coaches -- Joe Peace and Jack Bicknell, III. -- but we have done it (there may have been another). Tech's salary right now, while more than enough to keep one comfortable fr the present, is probably not enough to make someone secure after one or two years. Dooley, for example, if he gets fired he had a couple or three years well over a million, so he could be comfortable for a several years.

[deadawg]

I think any school that hires a head coach who still has time on his contract should have to play at the school the next season (in addition to the buy-out). Imagine the financial benefit to Tennessee in Ruston, USF at East Carolina, etc. It would help compensate the smaller schools. Then imagine USC at Tennessee or Ohio State at UF (maybe); the tv ratings would be huge.

Is this something that is commonly done? I see everyone post about demanding a home and home if we lose our coach, but I have never actually heard of it happening when a coach leaves.

[PawDawg]

At a school like Tech you have a problem which might be similar to Pat Hill's (I believe he was there only about 15 years). If you don't take the raise and run you might get fired. I can only remember Tech firing two coaches -- Joe Peace and Jack Bicknell, III. -- but we have done it (there may have been another). Tech's salary right now, while more than enough to keep one comfortable fr the present, is probably not enough to make someone secure after one or two years. Dooley, for example, if he gets fired he had a couple or three years well over a million, so he could be comfortable for a several years.

Everybody (with a brain :icon_wink agrees that Dykes stock will be up even more next year. Tech could win 7 games next year with Hogdawg coaching the team.

[ANODESSEY]

I think we only lose Sonny D to a major BCS Team, not an Ole Miss/Kansas/Purdue/ Washington St. but a UCLA, Tennessee, Missouri, Georgia, Michigan St., or and probably the most likely a school he already has an tight relationship with, TEXAS TECH, ARIZONA (maybe Arizona St.).

[Ktulu7]

At a school like Tech you have a problem which might be similar to Pat Hill's (I believe he was there only about 15 years). If you don't take the raise and run you might get fired. I can only remember Tech firing two coaches -- Joe Peace and Jack Bicknell, III. -- but we have done it (there may have been another). Tech's salary right now, while more than enough to keep one comfortable fr the present, is probably not enough to make someone secure after one or two years. Dooley, for example, if he gets fired he had a couple or three years well over a million, so he could be comfortable for a several years.

Come on though... Joe Peace lost to ULL THREE TIMES IN A ROW! That should not only be a firing offense, it should be punished via death by firing squad, or at least banishment from the parishes north of Alexandria for sure.

[EngDawg]

What's interesting to me is how someone could be so easy to poach when they already make a boatload of money... There are other intangible things to love about a particular job, once you're making enough money to get by comfortably. For instance, I'm able to post on BB&B at my job and not have to EVER hear any crap about LSU now, and I have a terrific boss with challenging work. Sure, I'd like to make more, but it sure as hell isn't near a million dollars. How many coaches in the past have actually just enjoyed building up where they are and shot down the massive raises and poaching attempts? I know Pat Hill supposedly turned down some money this year, but he's not a raging success either, and now is fired. Is it possible that we could ever have ourselves a Sonny Dykes and just build and build, obviously trying to compensate him the best we can over time as we grow the program, to where he may actually have a pretty nice salary anyway, just by virtue of our success?

I know this is VERY typically not the case, and I surely don't expect it. I'm just wondering how much precedent there is with regards to this.

You can't blame a man for leaving when it allows him to go from "wealthy" to "independently wealthy". In a lot of instances, moving up to a big AQ school can set up a coach's family for life. $400,000/year is a lot of money, but you will probably need to work next year. $1.5-$2MM/year is more money than the average person has saved for retirement....

[NathanDarby]

Tech could win 7 games next year with Hogdawg coaching the team.

And 12 if he was playing wide receiver!

[techman05]

You can't blame a man for leaving when it allows him to go from "wealthy" to "independently wealthy". In a lot of instances, moving up to a big AQ school can set up a coach's family for life. $400,000/year is a lot of money, but you will probably need to work next year. $1.5-$2MM/year is more money than the average person has saved for retirement....

the way it is going $1.5mm isn't that much money. I would have to work several years to take care of myself, let alone my kids and their college funds.

[ANODESSEY]

SMU and Houston could come after Dykes as Big East members.

[techman05]

SMU and Houston could come after Dykes as Big East members.

not if the system doesn't change and BE ends up losing AQ status in a few years.

[HogDawg]

I think any school that hires a head coach who still has time on his contract should have to play at the school the next season (in addition to the buy-out). Imagine the financial benefit to Tennessee in Ruston, USF at East Carolina, etc. It would help compensate the smaller schools. Then imagine USC at Tennessee or Ohio State at UF (maybe); the tv ratings would be huge.

I like it. A lot.





HD

[HogDawg]

How many coaches in the past have actually just enjoyed building up where they are and shot down the massive raises and poaching attempts? I know Pat Hill supposedly turned down some money this year, but he's not a raging success either, and now is fired. Is it possible that we could ever have ourselves a Sonny Dykes and just build and build, obviously trying to compensate him the best we can over time as we grow the program, to where he may actually have a pretty nice salary anyway, just by virtue of our success?.

Gary Patterson from TCU is a prime example of this. Keeping Patterson in the fold has been the secret to TCU's consistent success. If a school can KEEP a winning coach on staff, it will do more for recruiting than anything else a school can do.






HD

[Houston Techsan]

You can't blame a man for leaving when it allows him to go from "wealthy" to "independently wealthy". In a lot of instances, moving up to a big AQ school can set up a coach's family for life. $400,000/year is a lot of money, but you will probably need to work next year. $1.5-$2MM/year is more money than the average person has saved for retirement....

This was what I was trying to say. You said it better.

[Abominable Gorilla]

Is this something that is commonly done? I see everyone post about demanding a home and home if we lose our coach, but I have never actually heard of it happening when a coach leaves.

I've not heard of it, but it may happen. If I were to make a change to NCAA football, it would be to put the NCAA in charge of scheduling. Your strength of schedule would be determined by your previous year's winning percentage. They would also try to keep the rivalries and institute the coaching change rule listed above. IMO, that would be more important than a playoff system in making the system fair because the playoff system would STILL not invite teams like Houston over teams like Alabama no matter what the circumstances as they would keep making the same SOS argument. Plus, it would give schools like ULM a fighting chance to have a winning record once in a while. I understand this would eliminate conferences and will never happen, but these conferences are a major part of the problem and should be dissolved.

I like it. A lot.

HD

A proud moment in my BB&B career, .

[GonzoDawg]

My Pollyanna ideal head coach is one that can do the job but is a die hard TECH man through and through. Not in it for the money but for the success of La Tech. Does this person exist?