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18,000 seats? That's enough seats for 4.6 people per student.
Nice stadium with lots of good stuff but the title says it all "THIS Is Why Cities Are Going Broke".
Last edited by JAB; 03-28-2012 at 08:38 AM.
Cities are mainly going broke over government employee pension plans. This article states the city is raising money for this. This stadium is about as nice as North Texas's new stadium... I think it was 80 Million. That's crazy!
They have 3,900 students in grades 10-12. The freshmen center on the same grounds (about 180 acre complex) has about another 1,400. So the high school has about 5,400 students. The stadium will be sold out or near it every game.
It is not uncommon in these parts for a school like Plano east to have almost 3,000 kids in just 11-12 grades. Now the two 9-10 grade centers that feed it both have another 3,000 (combined) and depending on alignment may all go to east or some may go to plano high, it is not a problem filling 18,000 seats.
Hell there band varies from year to year and could have 500 or more members. If you are 5A in Texas either division I or II you have plenty of kids. Just depends on if your area is rich enough to afford the property taxes to support the spending.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/hig...le-stadium.ece
They open against Southlake Carroll, that game will be standing room only. (some current pics in that link) I drive by it every Saturday on my way to soccer.
I thought my school was big (El Dorado: approx 1,400 9-12).
Some cities like Allen take the one school approach. Here in Frisco we like the opposite. In 2002 we had one high school. We have 6 now, breaking ground on #7 plus we have a specialty campus (which I work at for HS elective courses) that serves about 3000 students a day.
The last education vote and bond was for a little over 900 million and it passed with 85% of the vote. Finances are just different here. Some places in Texas are as bad as anywhere in the country and then other are as good as anywhere else. It is very yin yang education finance situation.
1,400 is fairly big honestly, in Frisco we try to keep each campus in the 4A classification which runs about 2,100 this last time they calculated. They do split 5A into big and small so you dont have a school with 2,000 kids competing against 6,000.
Conference Cutoff Numbers
2010-2011 & 2011-2012
5A 2065 & up
4A 990 to 2064
3A 430 to 989
2A 200 to 429
1A 199 & below
99.9 & below enrollment cutoff for 6-man football
Division I and Division II Break Numbers
for 2A, 1A 11-Man and 1A 6-Man Football:
2A 293.5
1A 11-Man 150.5
1A 6-Man 50.5
That all being said.... I am sure we have an Allen resident on here probably that could speak to the tension in Allen over funding and where it goes etc.......
How much are real estate taxes in Allen?
I don't know. These high school stadiums are getting a bit too much. I love football but makes me wonder if the money is being used wisely - priorities. I mean if the academic side of the school (and the feeder elem schools) is being funded equally and with good results, then okay.
Seems to be they are just gonna be a breeding ground for alot of "spoiled -me,me,me" players.
But hey, it isn't my tax money that will build it, so they can put their priorities/money as they will. Go big or go home - I guess.
Don't forget Allen's $40,000,000 bus barn.
University of Houston '01. Any references to "we" or "us" likely refer to UH. Cheers!
So the latest candidates for the Alliance are: LaTech, UNT, UtState, Allen High School, SJSU, and FIU?
Just think on the one HS approach for a county . . . .
11 offensive starters
11 defensive starters
1 kicker
1 punter
Do you think the seniors dominate the playing time?
Louisiana Tech University
Flagship of the University of Louisiana System
3 deep seniors. Heard they were petitioning to have independant soph, jr, and sr teams.Originally Posted by Dawgpix
Okay, I'll respond…
Actually, there has never been a lot of tension over the building of the new football stadium. It was included in a bond issue that included three other items (academic and support facilities). The bond issue passed fairly easily although I suspect some who voted for it might have said "no" to parts of it if a line item type veto was possible. It wasn't... being an all or nothing thing. I for one am a season ticket holder for Allen HS football and look forward to attending games at the new stadium. We Allen High School (AHS) fans have "toughed it out" for years sitting through games in the old Eagle Stadium. AHS (both the main building and the Lowery Freshman Center) has outgrown that stadium. It is over 30 years old built as I recall when AHS was a 3A school.
As I have posted in the past, to the Allen school board’s credit, the building of the new football stadium was put at the back of the funding line behind other items such as building more elementary and middle schools. Doing that was in their eyes more important and essential considering Allen's growth, a city which is nearing its population size maximum. Allen is not nor will it ever be as big as the cities around it (e.g., Frisco and Plano). Allen has always wanted to be a one high school town. It should continue to be able to be that because of the slowing grown rate of the city. I see nothing wrong with either the Allen one large HS model which really has multiple schools (“houses” as they call them) within it or the multiple smaller HS model used in Frisco. Both work for their respective cities and constituents. And finally…
On the topic of taxes in Allen, they are high, but not too high at least in my opinion. At one time Allen was really nothing more than a bedroom community with no businesses in it to speak of. We had one of the highest tax rates in the state. I heard we were #2, but that I’m not sure about. Back in those days (I’ve lived in Allen for 30 years) meant going to Plano or McKinney to shop or eat out unless you could find what you wanted at the local 7-11 or Dairy Queen. Today Allen has lots of businesses including retail shopping and restaurants so its residents (like me) are not having to foot the entire bill for running the city and its schools.
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