You right. It was odd that our official information outlet decided to push an AP story opining how our season might go.Originally Posted by Bigdog13
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You right. It was odd that our official information outlet decided to push an AP story opining how our season might go.
Obviously you don't have kids yet--"cool" is not what they'll see!
maddawg, is this just a reductio ad absurdum of the argument against fast-paced offenses? surely you can't actually be arguing that side?
you jump in with "all you and your flawed football logic", then you go on to challenge anyone to name a fast-paced offense with a great defense. they do name a few, and one that almost won a national championship, and then you change the rules. and now you up the ante with an appeal to the authority of "football experts"?
dude.
My mistake, I just assumed you talked with them, since they agreed with your position.
Or we could have been in the Orange Bowl despite having the worst defense in the country if...
- Our offense didn't have 6 turnovers (mostly in the red zone) against Utah State and SJSU
- Or we didn't have kicking game blunders against Texas A&M and Utah State
- Or our offense showed up in the first half against Texas A&M or converted a 2-point conversion or two
- Or you could go on and on...
Our offense and special teams were awesome, but they did make several critical mistakes in our losses. Those were TEAM (coaching, offense, defense, special teams) losses, not just defensive losses.
Last edited by Dawg06; 08-19-2013 at 11:41 PM.
This really isn't a defensible position. If the offense puts up 40+ points, the loss is on the defense.
No! They were SD losses! And he should be dragged naked by his toenails through the streets of Ruston whilst being buggered repeatedly by a pack of rabid Pakistani goat-zombies.
And that's what he deserves just for the TAMU game!
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I'm with you Dawg06, football is a team game and the losses are as a team. And I know we dug some pretty deep holes as an offense every now and then (Tony Franklin had a lot to do with that). But if our defense could have limited alot of those scores to just field goals, we're looking at a 17 or 14 point deficit to come back from rather than a 28 or 30 point deficit. A few more stops could have helped us out alot because usually, once we got going we stayed hot for a while. But our defense did have its moments where they kept us close enough to come back and tie up games, mostly we just couldn't get one more stop or score right at the end of the game to finish the game off. All I'm saying is a few less points to make up each game may have made a big difference. And also if we had gotten a few more takeaways and some more timely turnovers, it would have made a big difference too. We wait until the two biggest games to have all of our turnovers and get no takeaways.
Dude. Stop it. As said earlier. When an offense scores as much as ours did, regardless of when, there is no reason we should lose. It's all defense. No need to jump on the grenade for the crappy defense we had last year.
Dykes knew his day in the sun was fading in Ruston .... A-la depart for Cal ... Knowing full well the D would stop fewer peeps this year than last and no QB to run his system to the same perfection. Good move on his part. Better on ours. If he didn't want us, we don't want him. We'll be OK. Hide and watch.
Off subject. Not relevant to this discussion. Aren't we having this almost exact discussion in another thread right now? The head coach of any team is responsible for the play on both sides of the ball.
You act like that's a first.:icon_wink:
Agree with some of what you posted. Especially the special teams in the A&M & USU games. Totally disagree on the offense in the A&M game. They scored 57. That's silly. The offense did more than enough to win that game. Do you think it's possible that going into every game knowing you had to score almost every drive in order to win put unfair pressure on the offense and the QB specifically and that contributed to many of the of the turnovers?? I do. I'm sure of it. CC played differently that last few games and threw some picks that were uncharacteristic of him. When you first read your post it's logical. But if you step back and look at it for a moment and think, what you really are asking is that the offense be perfect. #1 in the Nation wasn't good enough. Amazing wasn't good enough. You wanted perfect and because they were not perfect, you are lumping them in with the other reasons we didn't go to the Orange Bowl. This season was on the defense. Period. And you can lump any coach, (including the head coach) who is associated with the defense in there as well.
No. He threw all logic out the window when he started the post off in an effort to legitimize the defense's terrible play. It's rather funny how he can go on and on and on and on about some of the most trivial matters, yet let a poor performing defense get a pass.
I see where he is coming from but for the most part I agree with you. If the defense was halfway decent it's likely none of the offensive or special teams mistakes he brings up even matter.
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