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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    I keep thinking that we embraced the hell out of it last year and that didn't seem to do any good.
    Instead of EMBRACING the suck...we need to kick the sh*t out of the suck!!!

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Instead of a red out this year, we have to go white!




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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    very motivational...

    embrace the suck
    Often used by NCO's in the military. The term would be used when an individual or a group must complete a task that is pointless, tiring, and/or lame.


    NCO: Hey gather up, we need to mow the grass before we are released today.
    Soldier: That's bullshit, we had all day to do that.
    NCO: Well then just embrace the suck and get it done.

    ..."the suck" is the routine this goofball S&C coach has given them.

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    We may be short on a lot of things, but we certainly aren't short on suck.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    very motivational...

    embrace the suck
    Often used by NCO's in the military. The term would be used when an individual or a group must complete a task that is pointless, tiring, and/or lame.


    NCO: Hey gather up, we need to mow the grass before we are released today.
    Soldier: That's bullshit, we had all day to do that.
    NCO: Well then just embrace the suck and get it done.

    ..."the suck" is the routine this goofball S&C coach has given them.
    You really have a hard-on for this guy, don't you?

    (That use of that term for your sentiment is also a pretty common military expression. )

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Embrace the suck, suck it up, man up, quit yer bitchin', etc...

    I for one like it and am amazed that some don't, he's not pulling any punches laying the ugly truth in front of them. What some on here claim they're doing when they criticize and BBBitch about every move or decision made by the Admin or Coaches...

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    I hope it works out that this guy really knows how to develop football players. My only complaint about his tactics is that I would not be putting that stuff out to the public until my results showed where it counts. Either arrogance or stupidity. Neither is a god thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I hope it works out that this guy really knows how to develop football players. My only complaint about his tactics is that I would not be putting that stuff out to the public until my results showed where it counts. Either arrogance or stupidity. Neither is a god thing.
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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by turbodawg View Post
    You really have a hard-on for this guy, don't you?

    (That use of that term for your sentiment is also a pretty common military expression. )
    We are not military. Neither is our S&C guy. The guy didn't do a good job last year. Did you watch his work? We were out of condition in the first game and in the last game. Also, based on last year and a talk giving by our OLine coach, he is also a loser. Yet, our George Patton wannabe blames the players for our bad OLine.

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    We are not military. Neither is our S&C guy. The guy didn't do a good job last year. Did you watch his work? We were out of condition in the first game and in the last game. Also, based on last year and a talk giving by our OLine coach, he is also a loser. Yet, our George Patton wannabe blames the players for our bad OLine.
    We could use a military-style of thinking given the demeanor of the team during games last season. Unrelenting, disciplined, selfless, things I think of when I think of military training, and certainly qualities of a good team on the field.

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I didn't care for his results last year, and he does kind of come across as a run-of-the-mill crossfit douchebag. It is good to hear about our improvements in powerlifting which provides a good foundation for S&C, but I hope he is developing the right balance of speed, strength and endurance for the offense we want to run and the offenses we will need to defend against. He certainly has an opportunity to win me over this year.
    I don't want to sound like that run-of-the-mill CrossFit douchebag, but overhead jerk is an olympic movement, not powerlifting.

    Wasn't he hired around January 2013? 8-9 months is not enough to generate very significant gains in strength and conditioning. We're talking maybe 0.1 seconds off a 40 yard dash, 5-10 seconds off a 400 yard run, 10-20 on a squat, deadlift, bench, or olympic lift, and those are optimal estimates assuming the players are giving 100% effort, are eating well, and sleeping well.

    Our S&C's biggest impact in his first months is how he gets each player to work at 100% every day using whatever means necessary.

    I agree that this year is where we'll see how good his conditioning program works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    In today's social media world? Certainly you jest. Smart phones can do more than a soccer mom with a new camera for Christmas.
    I am not arguing with how easy stuff gets out. I am just saying that if it was our S&C coach that did it, then he should not have. I don't think he should put stuff out on his own until his techniques give the results we are lookin for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I am not arguing with how easy stuff gets out. I am just saying that if it was our S&C coach that did it, then he should not have. I don't think he should put stuff out on his own until his techniques give the results we are lookin for.
    I agree with your thinking. But back to the social media thing. It's hard for me to grasp a lot of this "look at me" twitter talk. For many, though, that's the only way they know to market themselves . . . horn-tooting.
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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by Allgood View Post
    We could use a military-style of thinking given the demeanor of the team during games last season. Unrelenting, disciplined, selfless, things I think of when I think of military training, and certainly qualities of a good team on the field.
    Focus on coaches demeanor and discipline. They are supposed to coach and lead.

    Again, we are not military. This is a football team. We are not going to war, we are playing a game. I despise coaching that uses military slogans and comparisons.

    You lose cred if you think 8 months isn't long enough to get a team into shape. This team was in better shape when he took them over than when the season ended.

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    Re: The Dawg Chain

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Focus on coaches demeanor and discipline. They are supposed to coach and lead.

    Again, we are not military. This is a football team. We are not going to war, we are playing a game. I despise coaching that uses military slogans and comparisons.

    You lose cred if you think 8 months isn't long enough to get a team into shape. This team was in better shape when he took them over than when the season ended.
    I understand your opposition to the use of military slogans by coaches, and agree mostly. But you don't have to be in the military to be an unrelenting, disciplined, selfless football player or any kind of of person for that matter. That's just being competitive in general.

    I didn't say get into shape.

    What's the direct metric for "in shape"? Do you mean "football shape"? You can say wins and losses, you can say how often players were injured, you can point out that players subbed out to catch their breath, but there isn't a direct measurement.

    Because I'll argue all day about the ability to push/pull 20+ more pounds than you did 2 months prior means you're more "in shape". That's from personal experience as a coach and athlete.

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