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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Ditto

    The offense he is running now nowhere close to what he ran the first 13 games. If he runs this offense we can get along. ;-)
    My sentiments, exactly.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris29 View Post
    Let's stop acting like last year was totally on lack of talent, newbies, etc. I watched enough Tech football last year to know that the coaching was subpar. Lacking talent at key positions, yes, but there seemed to be nothing done to overcome this. Not many adjustments to speak of, players misused or not used at all, gameplans that were headscratchers (defense vs Army). I think everyone that doubted Holtz had every right to do so based on the evidence that was 2013 Tech football. This year seems to be a different story, but the jury is still out. UNT and ULL, neither of whom can throw a forward pass, aren't the measuring stick. We'll see how we fare in conference. Hopefully we sustain our momentum we have built the last two weeks.
    I just now saw this. Really good post. I agree completely.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    What's "dumb" is the fact that you can't see the primary difference between last year's results and this years results is the COACHING!! Holtz has truly CHANGED HIS WAYS!! Big time. And that's what we wanted last year. He's just now figuring it out. On the other hand, MOST of us figured it out in game 2 or 3 of last year.

    You want proof? In 2014, Holtz has literally taken the play calling responsibility AWAY from his OC, and now calls the plays for himself. And that's good. Because the play calling last year sucked donkey balls. Holtz should have done this last year, or hired a better OC in the first place. This is one of the main things we fans were complaining about. In 2013, the play calling was HORRIBLE, and WE KNEW IT!! Ultimately, even Holtz agreed with us.

    Likewise, the DEFENSIVE coaching this year is 100% better than it was in 2013. Again, the season-to-date improvements are traced right back to the outstanding coaching performance of Manny Diaz. It just took Holtz a whole season down the drain to figure out what the REST OF US already knew, and were already saying.

    Last year is on Holtz. He hired poor coordinators on both sides of the ball, and it burned him.
    Coaching did play a role with Holtz taking over the offense and changing the scheme, but the primary reason we are better is because the line is protecting the QB and the QB is playing very well. Put Higgins back in there and see what a genius you think Holtz is.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Coaching did play a role with Holtz taking over the offense and changing the scheme, but the primary reason we are better is because the line is protecting the QB and the QB is playing very well. Put Higgins back in there and see what a genius you think Holtz is.

    It's interesting you say that. I noticed neither Higgins or Burch could throw a pass worth a crap the other night against UNT. It was very disappointing. I even commented on it here on BB&B. Fact is, Holtz may have to show Higgins and/or Burch the same door he showed Scotty Young. We can't continue keeping QB's on the roster that can't hit the side of a barn. It's Holtz's job to figure it out.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    It's interesting you say that. I noticed neither Higgins or Burch could throw a pass worth a crap the other night against UNT. It was very disappointing. I even commented on it here on BB&B. Fact is, Holtz may have to show Higgins and/or Burch the same door he showed Young. We can't continue keeping QB's on the roster that can't hit the side of a barn. It's Holtz's job to figure it out.
    Yeah, the "play-calling" sucked didn't it?

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Yeah, the "play-calling" sucked didn't it?
    I thought we made a mistake with Stallworth years ago by not running the same/similar offense that Rattay ran when he came in for mop-up duty in 1999

    Really need to run our offense to see if they can run it in game situations - it does you no good now to THINK they can't run it, let the player prove it one way or another

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Yeah, the "play-calling" sucked didn't it?
    Actually, it did. The first question I asked during Higgins' debut was "why are we asking our brand new QB coming in cold as ice to throw a sideline screen pass 15-20 yards to a WR down the line of scrimmage?" The risk is high, that throw is hard to make cold, and it's got to be made very quickly. Talk about putting your people is a bad position....Geez.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Play-calling with Higgins and Burch in was vintage 2013. I'd much rather run the same thing at all times. If a guy can't do it, go find someone who can. I feel strongly that Holtz wouldn't have taken as much heat if he called plays last year like he's calling this year...regardless of the outcomes.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I thought we made a mistake with Stallworth years ago by not running the same/similar offense that Rattay ran when he came in for mop-up duty in 1999

    Really need to run our offense to see if they can run it in game situations - it does you no good now to THINK they can't run it, let the player prove it one way or another

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    They practice a lot. We don't have the privilege of watching them, but they all run the same offense. There may be "packages" put in for a unique ability (wildcat or such), but they don't have different plays for different QB's. All QB's don't make the same decisions. It's hard and that's what separates the good ones from the bad ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Play-calling with Higgins and Burch in was vintage 2013. I'd much rather run the same thing at all times. If a guy can't do it, go find someone who can. I feel strongly that Holtz wouldn't have taken as much heat if he called plays last year like he's calling this year...regardless of the outcomes.
    Petersen called plays last year. But Holtz didn't even know our personnel before he hired his staff. We didn't have the personnel to run a spread last year and that's why Holtz changed the scheme this year.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Petersen called plays last year. But Holtz didn't even know our personnel before he hired his staff. We didn't have the personnel to run a spread last year and that's why Holtz changed the scheme this year.
    I don't think anybody on here was married to the spread, per se. The problem was not even attempting to stretch the field, thus allowing every team we faced to load the box on Dixon. I for one would have been fine with the failure if we were at least showing a desire to try and stretch the field.

    Thankfully, Holtz has come around (apparently). Yeah, it is easier with Sokol at the helm, but we need to continue to be committed to balance and attempting to open it up even after Sokol completes his fantastic Senior year.

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Petersen called plays last year. But Holtz didn't even know our personnel before he hired his staff. We didn't have the personnel to run a spread last year and that's why Holtz changed the scheme this year.
    Well, at least we finally have an admission from you that Holtz changed his schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skilldawg View Post
    I don't think anybody on here was married to the spread, per se. The problem was not even attempting to stretch the field, thus allowing every team we faced to load the box on Dixon. I for one would have been fine with the failure if we were at least showing a desire to try and stretch the field.

    Thankfully, Holtz has come around (apparently). Yeah, it is easier with Sokol at the helm, but we need to continue to be committed to balance and attempting to open it up even after Sokol completes his fantastic Senior year.
    I'm not even going to say it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Well, at least we finally have an admission from you that Holtz changed his schemes.
    Where have you been?! You weren't here for the uproar when Holtz started recruiting fullbacks and TEs so he could run an "80's offense" and how Tech fans griped that "Tech can't win that way?"

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    Re: Sunshine Pumper

    T1, please ignore HD. He wouldn't know a good coach if he saw one. One of the best in the game is in his own damn town and he once called his style boring..........!

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