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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Here's 4 reasons to choose Cruz over Trump.



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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Think of the debates with Hillary. Do you want a conservative who challenges liberal ideas with conservative ideas, or a guy who will call her fat and ugly and agree with her on the issues? (or get destroyed on the issues because he hasn't thought them through yet).

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog13 View Post
    He's the true anti establishment candidate. It's why he is so disliked.
    Isn't it also why he hasn't been accepted as the anti-Trump?

    Look, I'm all about calling the establishment out, but I think Cruz's disposition has, ultimately, cost him the nomination. His divisiveness has kept those who would love to stop Trump from jumping on the bandwaggon.

    Ideologically, he's not all that different than Rubio, yet only 47% of Rubio supporters say they'll vote for Ted. I think the people have been crying for obstruction and demolition. Cruz has to show he can be more than that.

    I'll gladly vote for the guy if he gets the nod...I'm just opining on why it took so long for him to become the obvious alternative. Set me straight. I lot of folks that I know and respect are all about Cruz, so I hope I'm missing something.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    I think he was an unknown. People knew who Donald Trump was. They knew Rubio a little bit. Ted Cruz just got into national politics 3 years ago. Trump effectively labeled him as a liar and people don't really know who Ted Cruz is, so it worked. People think he treated Ben Carson unfairly too, and don't blame CNN for it. And politicians don't like him, so they think he is unlikeable without understanding that that actually means he's on their side and not the politicians side.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    I love Cruz but guess what, HE CANT WIN! There are not enough constitutionalist conservatives for him to even be the nominee. In a 2 way race, he still loses to Trump. I guess you guys just don't see it.

    I like Trump and will not be ashamed to have voted for him. He is the only one left that can beat Hillary and have fun doing it. Who knows, when Trump is president and he doesn't do all the liberal things you think he will, maybe you will end up liking him.

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    I would rather go down fighting her with principles. She will have to earn it with ideas. Either conservatism wins or we are no longer that nation. Trump will have to beat her with personality. The media will effectively have him as Hitler II by July and it's over. Hillary will be the reasonable candidate against a nutjob.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    It will be a nutjob against a verified liar. I will go with the nut job and you should also. Trump is going to destroy the myth of Bill Clinton along with Hillary. Hillary reminds me a lot of Bob Dole running because it was his turn. You do realize Trump beat Hillary in number of votes earned in Ohio and Missouri in the primary. That bodes really well for Trump as he actually is running against quality people. That Hillary cant vanquish Berny says alot about her chances. No one is excited for Hillary.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Why Trump over Cruz though? Cruz agrees with Trump on all your issues except banning all Muslims from entering the country. Why risk it? Trump will tell you he's not a conservative. He calls himself "a common sense conservative." To me, that means he thinks conservatives have no common sense. He will be a deal-maker with progressives using his common sense. That's a rino. That's Boehner.
    His supporters are proving it right.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by cscollis View Post
    I love Cruz but guess what, HE CANT WIN! There are not enough constitutionalist conservatives for him to even be the nominee. In a 2 way race, he still loses to Trump. I guess you guys just don't see it.

    I like Trump and will not be ashamed to have voted for him. He is the only one left that can beat Hillary and have fun doing it. Who knows, when Trump is president and he doesn't do all the liberal things you think he will, maybe you will end up liking him.
    I hope you are right and he will be good, but you have idea if you can make this statement or not yet. You have no idea what he will do-he doesn't even know. He just makes crap up as he goes along. You should be terrified by the amount of money he has pumped into liberal candidates in prior years.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by cscollis View Post
    It will be a nutjob against a verified liar. I will go with the nut job and you should also. Trump is going to destroy the myth of Bill Clinton along with Hillary. Hillary reminds me a lot of Bob Dole running because it was his turn. You do realize Trump beat Hillary in number of votes earned in Ohio and Missouri in the primary. That bodes really well for Trump as he actually is running against quality people. That Hillary cant vanquish Berny says alot about her chances. No one is excited for Hillary.
    Trump is getting about 1/3 of the Republican vote (if you include the Democrats and Independents who are voting in Republican primaries). 2/3 of Republicans don't want him (or more if you don't include the Democrats and Independents who are voting in Republican primaries). No one is excited for Hillary, but the media will have people worked up to vote against Trump. He will be a scary guy who will destabilize the country and the world, who MUST be stopped. Even if Trump wins, conservative lose though.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Two terms are being redefined in this election: conservative and evangelical
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Actual votes:

    Trump: 7.5 million
    Cruz: 5.5 milion
    Rubio and Kasich combined: 6 million
    Other 13 combined: 2 million

    That's 7.5 million for and 13.5 against.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Hypothetical polls have Cruz beating Trump 54-41 and Rubio beating Trump 51-45.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-vs-cruz-rubio

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Two terms are being redefined in this election: conservative and evangelical
    Max is one of the few that "gets it".

    https://maxlucado.com/decency-for-president/

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Trump said this twice in debates:

    "I would be neutral in the Israel-Palestinian conflict, but trust me, I'm very Pro-Israel because I was named Grand Marshall of the Manhattan Jewish parade."

    I can't stand behind that kind of nonsense. Sorry.

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