Conspiracy?

[Cool Hand Clyde]

I'm done with false dichotomies. Both are laden with sin and I don't have to vote for either one. I am utterly convinced that the only way for conservatism to flourish is for conservatives to reject BOTH of these big government power grabbers.

Conservatism and religious conservatism are not the same thing.

[johnnylightnin]

Conservatism and religious conservatism are not the same thing.

Trump is neither...what's your point?

[Cool Hand Clyde]

Trump is neither...what's your point?

I don't think I mentioned Trump in my comment but neither are you.

[johnnylightnin]

I don't think I mentioned Trump in my comment but neither are you.

Again, what's your point?

[inudesu]

Wishful thinking on your part. I don't know of one vote he has lost at this point. Those fools crying about him weren't supporters of Trump anyway.

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayne...ction-n2229846

[OLDBLUE]

I'm done with false dichotomies. Both are laden with sin and I don't have to vote for either one. I am utterly convinced that the only way for conservatism to flourish is for conservatives to reject BOTH of these big government power grabbers.

I'm with you there; however, that effort was the first step that got us to where we are today. Politics "ain't" the answer, it is the problem.

We don't want God in our courtrooms, nor our schools, not on our "public" squares either. What should we expect from society? The days of Noah is what we seem to be approaching. Get out in the street and slaughter each other. All we can hope to get from politicians in our secular state of mind is a little law and order. Otherwise, thank God He is in control.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

I love this from the article posted. And I think we should vote the party platform or against one of them in this case as a Christian. And I agree with Oldblue.

Fear, or trust in God?

Though we may be tempted to become fearful or despondent, this turmoil in our nation provides a wonderful opportunity to renew our faith in God each day, “for kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations” (Psalm 22:28). We should continue to pray, mindful of what Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon long ago: “The Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will” (Daniel 4:17).

[JuBru]

Again, what's your point?

Conflating the two is a part of the problem.

[johnnylightnin]

Conflating the two is a part of the problem.

I'm listening. Explain.

[JuBru]

I'm listening. Explain.

To be honest, my words aren't good enough right now (bad week already) to say anything better than just conservatism and Christianity aren't the same thing and that attempting to tie the two together with talk of Christian sins, morals, etc. as the guide pushes people away from conservatism.

[johnnylightnin]

To be honest, my words aren't good enough right now (bad week already) to say anything better than just conservatism and Christianity aren't the same thing and that attempting to tie the two together with talk of Christian sins, morals, etc. as the guide pushes people away from conservatism.

What people and where does it push them? Who conflates the two? Granted, I'm a bit of an odd bird (feeling that more and more each day). My lack of support for Trump has nothing to do with his sin or lack of morals (he has both according to Jews, Christians, Muslims, and all sorts of other faiths). My opposition to Trump has everything to do with his big government solutions.

Is this the sort of thing you're talking about? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ligious-right/

[OLDBLUE]

Oh the "wisdom of man."

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Well here we go with another Obama scandal.

Arms dealer says administration made him scapegoat on Libya operation to 'protect' Clinton

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...t-clinton.html

[70TECHGRAD]

I'm with you there; however, that effort was the first step that got us to where we are today. Politics "ain't" the answer, it is the problem.

We don't want God in our courtrooms, nor our schools, not on our "public" squares either. What should we expect from society? The days of Noah is what we seem to be approaching. Get out in the street and slaughter each other. All we can hope to get from politicians in our secular state of mind is a little law and order. Otherwise, thank God He is in control.

If Hillary is elected, God won't be seen anywhere!! Also, you will have no first amendment rights and no guns!!

[johnnylightnin]

As Robert Costa of the Washington Post reported, “Trump circle gloating. Privately mocking elected Rs who are agonizing. One laughed and said, ‘We don’t care.’” It’s true. They don’t. Because they never cared. Not about stopping Hillary. Not about promoting conservatism. Trump himself said months ago he wouldn’t be too upset if Republicans lost the Senate, because then he’d be free to cut deals with Democrats. Trump’s a lifelong Democratic donor — including to Hillary. The great irony of Trump’s candidacy is that his most ardent boosters see Hillary as an existential crisis, but Trump himself doesn’t think she’s that dangerous and never did.

This has been clear to see to those who've been willing to see it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...mp-doesnt-care

His destruction of the only formidable opposition party is nearly complete.