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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Gooddawg View Post
    I don't believe we interviewed any other candidates so basically that's what happened.

    You are correct though, Holtz made a mistake because he didn't want to change the scheme for a group of seniors with nfl talent. They could have learned any good scheme, taken to any good coaching, and played it well. That would have been better for Tech, them, our football team and program going forward than the last two years of coaching they have received.
    That's why I think he will keep him again. He values the consistency of the program and thinks it will improve as Baker and the talent improves.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Do all the haters think Baker is a good coach just not DC material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Do all the haters think Baker is a good coach just not DC material?
    No one knows, we just see the product. He seems to be a very good recruiter and a great guy. I would love to have an off the record conversation with him about what the pass defense problem has been.... Problems with TEs last year and with great QBs this year, for the most part. I like how he values stopping the run first... we have been solid against the run.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    No one knows, we just see the product. He seems to be a very good recruiter and a great guy. I would love to have an off the record conversation with him about what the pass defense problem has been.... Problems with TEs last year and with great QBs this year, for the most part. I like how he values stopping the run first... we have been solid against the run.
    Except in the last two games of the year. Gave up over 200 yards rushing to WKU and 300 to Navy and their 2nd/3rd string QB and RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    No one knows, we just see the product. He seems to be a very good recruiter and a great guy. I would love to have an off the record conversation with him about what the pass defense problem has been.... Problems with TEs last year and with great QBs this year, for the most part. I like how he values stopping the run first... we have been solid against the run.
    And, why would any team bother trying to run when they've seen our pass defense on film. Did do a credible job against AR though. I'm still perplexed as to how we held them to 21 points.

    For the most part, we were just as physical as the Hogs. We seemed to have regressed by the end of the year for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    And, why would any team bother trying to run when they've seen our pass defense on film. Did do a credible job against AR though. I'm still perplexed as to how we held them to 21 points.

    For the most part, we were just as physical as the Hogs. We seemed to have regressed by the end of the year for some reason.
    Not all teams are capable of passing well. Some teams, like Arkansas, Bama, LSU, UTEp, Rice, ULL, .... prefer to run the ball. We do much better against those kind of teams than we do Tx Tech, WKU, MT, USM...

    I agree, we didn't stop USM or WKU's run in the last 2 games. WKU may have been due to missing a couple LBs though...maybe.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    WKU may have been due to missing a couple LBs though...maybe.
    All four of our grad transfers were bad gets last year. COYHCSH has got to be careful. It all caught up with him in one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    All four of our grad transfers were bad gets last year. COYHCSH has got to be careful. It all caught up with him in one year.
    We seem to be having trouble recruiting LB and DB....bunch of JUCOs and grad transfers since he got here. We have the numbers, but he doesn't trust them (the HS recruits).

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    like the anti-Higgins thread ( worst thread of 2016) its time for this thread to die. spread offense leads to hi scoring games. We scored over 45 pts in 5 games 50 points in 3 and 60 in 2. 10 games that this thread would want defensive coach fired. We gave up about 32 points a game . averaged about 45. I best defensive game was Arkansas-21. Guess what, we played ball control and scored 20 points. This D might have looked a hell of a lot better if we played boring ball control d. run 30 seconds off clock and snap ball. NOW this is my opinion-- before you slam the defense you need to decide what type offense you want. You cant have it both ways ... again--10 teams had worse defense than us .... ?? fire those coaches.. Cal is going that way, they gave up on Dykes offense ( and him looking at every other job available) and hired a defensive coach

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Nah, our DC is great and I'm so happy we can go 9-5 in the Sunbelt Plus and go to mediocre bowl games.
    So beating Navy - Illinois and CBS ranks our bowl #3 this year. We are doing tremendous job in a stressed financial enviorment -- You do know we were 7 for 7 from 2015 team finding an NFL team? CUSA did extremely well in bowl games . Why post if you have ZERO understanding how far this program has eveolve. 27 wins in 3 years- 3 bowl wins guys making NFL teams -- new stadium improvements like crazy. Unlike you I am happy and increasing my LTAC contribution every year. Buying extra season ticket for football--baseball and basketball .. and sending $ for academics ( plus a granddaughter tuition). Your attempt at sarcasm basically shows your excuse for ridiculing our program.... 50 years of being a Tech fan/supporter and loving what we are doing !!

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsince65 View Post
    So beating Navy - Illinois and CBS ranks our bowl #3 this year. We are doing tremendous job in a stressed financial enviorment -- You do know we were 7 for 7 from 2015 team finding an NFL team? CUSA did extremely well in bowl games . Why post if you have ZERO understanding how far this program has eveolve. 27 wins in 3 years- 3 bowl wins guys making NFL teams -- new stadium improvements like crazy. Unlike you I am happy and increasing my LTAC contribution every year. Buying extra season ticket for football--baseball and basketball .. and sending $ for academics ( plus a granddaughter tuition). Your attempt at sarcasm basically shows your excuse for ridiculing our program.... 50 years of being a Tech fan/supporter and loving what we are doing !!
    Pure DS65: Ya gotta love it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russdawg View Post
    Pure DS65: Ya gotta love it!!
    you are in minority on that but thanks. I will see you Thursday and Saturday at BB games --that 3 hr driving ( over and back) getting tougher .... saw Russdawg was 1 level above me on LTAC so I stepped it up this yr -- Thanks for recruiting Craft..

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsince65 View Post
    like the anti-Higgins thread ( worst thread of 2016) its time for this thread to die. spread offense leads to hi scoring games. We scored over 45 pts in 5 games 50 points in 3 and 60 in 2. 10 games that this thread would want defensive coach fired. We gave up about 32 points a game . averaged about 45. I best defensive game was Arkansas-21. Guess what, we played ball control and scored 20 points. This D might have looked a hell of a lot better if we played boring ball control d. run 30 seconds off clock and snap ball. NOW this is my opinion-- before you slam the defense you need to decide what type offense you want. You cant have it both ways ... again--10 teams had worse defense than us .... ?? fire those coaches.. Cal is going that way, they gave up on Dykes offense ( and him looking at every other job available) and hired a defensive coach
    The WKU's scores this year disputes your argument. On common opponents, they held their opponents to less. It was the quality of their DC that kept the scores against the bad teams low, while for us they were high. If we are a good team, we should keep the scores of the bad teams below 24 or below. And WKU did have pretty much the same type of offense as us.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsince65 View Post
    So beating Navy - Illinois and CBS ranks our bowl #3 this year. We are doing tremendous job in a stressed financial enviorment -- You do know we were 7 for 7 from 2015 team finding an NFL team? CUSA did extremely well in bowl games . Why post if you have ZERO understanding how far this program has eveolve. 27 wins in 3 years- 3 bowl wins guys making NFL teams -- new stadium improvements like crazy. Unlike you I am happy and increasing my LTAC contribution every year. Buying extra season ticket for football--baseball and basketball .. and sending $ for academics ( plus a granddaughter tuition). Your attempt at sarcasm basically shows your excuse for ridiculing our program.... 50 years of being a Tech fan/supporter and loving what we are doing !!
    Here are some 2016 stats from the NCAA site:

    3rd down conversion % defense - ranked 114 out of 128
    Passing yards per game defense - ranked 116 out of 128
    Red zone defense - ranked 112 out of 128
    Scoring defense - ranked 97 out of 128
    Passing efficiency defense - ranked 117 out of 128

    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f...ent/team/40/p3

    You can deflect all day long but facts are facts.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Here are some 2016 stats from the NCAA site:

    3rd down conversion % defense - ranked 114 out of 128
    Passing yards per game defense - ranked 116 out of 128
    Red zone defense - ranked 112 out of 128
    Scoring defense - ranked 97 out of 128
    Passing efficiency defense - ranked 117 out of 128

    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f...ent/team/40/p3

    You can deflect all day long but facts are facts.
    And I would be thrilled if those numbers were more like 62 out of 128. Give me mediocrity!!! (on defense)

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