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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Which means, the leash Holtz has with the LA Tech fan base will be shorter than it would ordinarily be from a smarter coach who cares about defense. Nobody's saying Holtz is not going to retain Baker. Rather, I'm simply saying he's stupid for doing it.
    The leash should be shorter, but it won't be. We have too many fans that are happy with mediocrity. That's why it took 28 years in D-1, a watered down conference and watered down bowl system for us to get to a bowl 3 years in a row.

    But, we have made progress, albeit a lot slower than some of us would've liked.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Rather, I'm simply saying he's stupid for doing it.
    Which we all know. So need to keep repeating it.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Which we all know. So need to keep repeating it.
    Apparently we MUST keep repeating it until Holtz gets the message. Besides, with decisions like this, Holtz needs a little pressure anyway.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    The leash should be shorter, but it won't be. We have too many fans that are happy with mediocrity. That's why it took 28 years in D-1, a watered down conference and watered down bowl system for us to get to a bowl 3 years in a row.

    But, we have made progress, albeit a lot slower than some of us would've liked.
    COYHCSH runs the program. We are well past the days of Dan Reneau telling our AD's what to do and when. I don't know a SINGLE fan who was happy with our defense, but COYHCSH does not have rabbit ears. He does what he thinks is best even if he knows it is not working. He is dedicated to his plan to a fault.

    Did you really expect him to fire the guy who he gave a huge raise to going into the season? Any fan who has kept up with COYHCSH knew he would not. I think it is silly to "demand" that he be fired when we have no say. I bet not a single person who is so outspoken about Baker has sent COYHCSH an email asking him to fire Baker.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    When Trump says he is going to repeal Obamacare, he means it. When COYHCSH says he is going to retain Baker, he means it. No matter who many of you put on your squirell hats and march through the streets of Ruston, that won't change.

    Finally got a smile from this thread! You win this thread... every defensive coach in CUSA would get fired ( not much of exaggeration) ...

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    COYHCSH runs the program. We are well past the days of Dan Reneau telling our AD's what to do and when. I don't know a SINGLE fan who was happy with our defense, but COYHCSH does not have rabbit ears. He does what he thinks is best even if he knows it is not working. He is dedicated to his plan to a fault.

    Did you really expect him to fire the guy who he gave a huge raise to going into the season? Any fan who has kept up with COYHCSH knew he would not. I think it is silly to "demand" that he be fired when we have no say. I bet not a single person who is so outspoken about Baker has sent COYHCSH an email asking him to fire Baker.
    Or sent one to Coach Baker asking what he is going to do to improve in 2017.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Baker must be better than I thought. Green Bay and Pittsburgh are both playing his defensive scheme today.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    I just wanted to say I think HCSH has been very good for my Tech. Offense has been great, he is a great representative for the program, always class all the way. If a player had not preformed as his DC has he would be benched long ago. Why has Baker not been treated as anyone else in the program would have been. It seems to be a weakness of HCSH. He does not have the killer instinct in him but I dont know. Something needs to be done. Prayers for the defense next year.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    I wouldn't slam an outhouse door that hard. (;-)

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I bet not a single person who is so outspoken about Baker has sent COYHCSH an email asking him to fire Baker.
    That's one of the goofiest things you've ever posted. When I read that, I literally laughed out loud.

    Since when did it become the responsibility of the fans to WRITE an e-mail to our soon to be $1 Million per year head coach asking him to fire an under-performing assistant? Don't we pay him a healthy salary to make those decisions? If he can't handle it without help from the fans, I'm sure we can find another head coach who can.

    On the other hand, if he's too gutless to fire a bottom 10% performer and needs someone to do it for him, then he can WRITE me for advice. Because I would absolutely advise him to do it.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    We all knew Baker was never going to be fired. He won't be fired unless pressure is put on Holtz. I personally believe that Baker is in over his head, but Holtz doesn't seem to think so. Baker's schemes are very vanilla. Soft zone coverage coupled with slow developing blitzes. There are no elements of suprise, bumping people off the line, or man to man.

    Does anyone know whether Holtz has ever fired anyone on his own? I can't name one.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by revf View Post

    Does anyone know whether Holtz has ever fired anyone on his own? I can't name one.
    He seems to insist they find another job...maybe even helps them get another job. IMO, he has done that with at least two assistants since being here.

    The thing with Baker is that COYHCSH made an embarrassing move by giving him the raise before the season. Now the bad defense reflects on him, not Baker. Our fans can't seem to grasp that.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He seems to insist they find another job...maybe even helps them get another job. IMO, he has done that with at least two assistants since being here.

    The thing with Baker is that COYHCSH made an embarrassing move by giving him the raise before the season. Now the bad defense reflects on him, not Baker. Our fans can't seem to grasp that.
    Okay, then fire BOTH Baker and Holtz today!!!

    Whew! that was easy.

    Can you grasp that?

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Okay, then fire BOTH Baker and Holtz today!!!

    Whew! that was easy.

    Can you grasp that?
    Yes, about the time you grasp reality.

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    Re: Fire Baker - NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Yes, about the time you grasp reality.
    Ya mean that Holtz is HC and as such is ultimately responsible for staffing decisions? That reality?

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