Holtz post game comments

[BruceWillisDawg]

The only two times Holtz has beaten Southern Miss was two of their lowest years. If they have a pulse, they beat Holtz. That is the facts. I bet they lose at home this week to UAB.

It certainly would not surprise me either. USM QB was not very good. Anytime we got pressure he either threw a terrible pass or threw it away. Even on the completions many of those were thrown up as 50/50 balls to their taller than our dbs receivers. If UAB keeps pressure on him he will fold which is what we should have done. But instead we go prevent with 4:00 left in the game - typical Skip - play so conservative that your team doesnt make plays or create havoc. Our defense is 80th in total D. THATS NOT VERY GOOD. Skip has talked all year about how well they are playing but the #s dont lie. We have allowed below avg offenses to gain 400 yds against our defense leaving them on the field way too long because Baker doesnt believe in 3 and outs he believes in bending like a young LA pine.

[THEarmada]

When losing close games becomes a pattern I believe it indicates a coaching issue.

[SIC_EM_DAWGS!]

It certainly would not surprise me either. USM QB was not very good. Anytime we got pressure he either threw a terrible pass or threw it away. Even on the completions many of those were thrown up as 50/50 balls to their taller than our dbs receivers. If UAB keeps pressure on him he will fold which is what we should have done. But instead we go prevent with 4:00 left in the game - typical Skip - play so conservative that your team doesnt make plays or create havoc. Our defense is 80th in total D. THATS NOT VERY GOOD. Skip has talked all year about how well they are playing but the #s dont lie. We have allowed below avg offenses to gain 400 yds against our defense leaving them on the field way too long because Baker doesnt believe in 3 and outs he believes in bending like a young LA pine.

I agree with the prevent defense late in the game, but disagree with your other assertion. The defense has shown a huge progression from the previous two years in our LB play and backend play, even against USM we showed improvements over the previous two games against the run holding Ito in check. The issue all season for the defense has been the number of plays they are forced to play. Look at the drive charts and you can see this defense is doing a good job limiting big plays and forcing negative plays early in the game, but as the game progresses the opposing offense starts to gain momentum and build sustainable drives. The biggest problem with this years team is that our offense is anemic. Look at where our offense ranks and at the teams around them. We convert only 35% of our third down attempts. We consistently flounder drives and due to less than stellar punting outside of one or two punts start to lose the field position battle. I think this team's 3-4 record has enough blame to go around, but I have a glimmer of hope for our defense if the offense can find a way to move the ball consistently and lets the defense get enough time to make adjustments and get a sip of water before they have to strap back up and go try and get another stop.

[SIC_EM_DAWGS!]

I think they need discipline and coaching. Stupid penalties have killed us in the last two losses. Celebrating and doing dances after making a hard tackle for a 15 yd gain reflects on coaching and discipline. FWIW, I don't think "swagger and confidence" is lacking. They need less of that crap.

I think maybe there is some disconnect between our respective definitions of swagger and confidence. Cockiness and undisciplined play is just that, and is detrimental to team success. My interpretation of confidence and swagger is the belief in one's self and one's teammates that you will make the play that has to be made. Every great team has swagger. You can see, hear, and feel it. Tom Brady has swagger, when he walks up to the huddle on a fourth quarter drive and calls out the play his voice doesn't waiver because he knows he is going to make the play. This team has the talent to win out, they just need the switch to flip on both sides of the ball knowing that they will make the play, not just hoping to. You could see it when USM recovered the onside kick, a wave of defeat rushed over Techs sideline. You also saw it when the defense gave up the TD in the second overtime and the offense trotted out. The game was over right there because Tech was hoping to tie not expecting to.

[stodgdog]

deep dark depression, excessive misery

Man, living amongst those Arkansans is negatively impacting you. We will be fine. Poor execution at key times, bad breaks, and occasional poor officiating at important times, inconsistent offensive play, and still we are 3 lousy plays that didn't go our way from being 6-1. I'm not giving up on this team. I suggest none of us should.

Also, these players are well coached. Sometimes they don't execute well.

[stodgdog]

So many folks are throwing in towel after the bitter loss to S Miss and J Marr had really bad day as QB -- Guess what, not even close to worst day I have seen against S Miss-ironically it was 1967 when a totally worthless--horrible , lousy QB threw 6 picks ( several for pick 6) in 58-7 loss on Thanksgiving day. For some goofy reason the coaches did not give up on him-- I can only imagine if BBB was around-- anybody remember what happened to that guy--name was Terry Bradshaw.

I drove back from Ruston in misery Saturday-- decided I was NOT going to Rice Game -- then I calmed down and questioned whether I was a fair weather fan or die hard win or lose guy. I will be in Houston -period end of story .

So hear goes -- while at Tech I saw these games with Southern Miss:

1965 Lost
1966 Lost
1967 Lost 58-7 Shreveport fair ground on Thanksgiving day--Terry B
1968 WON 27-10
1969 lost 24-23
1970 won 27-6
9171 lost 24-23 NO=it did not take me 7 years to graduate-- I stayed for masters and taught English under Dr Sachs went to game in 1965 while in HS

So all the whining and WOE is Me crud being posted I am ignoring. 2015 and 2016 southern Miss games bruised my heart but I refuse to give up on our dogs
We live in horrible times where a computer allows people to post crappy-stupid stuff that they would never say in front of coaches-player etc.
FLORIDA PLAYERS AND COACHES GETTING DEATH THREAT--DRISCOL LEFT THE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF IDIOTS -FOR GOODNESS SAKES-DEATH THREAT
I have personal opinion that overwhelming majority of BBB negative posters have never suited up at college level, had knee surgery, concussions etc--just love to vent crap--again, my opinion .

Every coach ( Dykes-Holtz etc) tell the players-circle the wagons and ignore the posters - yeah, I have been one of the many who refuse to rip players, coaches etc. Yeah, I whine during game and vent with my friends but I respect players who chose Tech and Coaches who represent us....
I promised myself I would not read BBB this week because I knew what it would be like, made the mistake of reading to many posts and pissed off at so much hatred posting -yeah, its the right word HATRED -- its the world we seem to inhabit -- signed a 52 year supporter

I did too and held out until last night. FWIW, I have been attending games at Tech since I was wee, as Daddy had season tickets for as long as I remember. Remember seeing Mickey Slaughter play at Tech, and many other games at the old stadium. I think it was Bradshaw's senior year when Aillet opened. My memory is our first game there was against Lamar (Lamar Tech in those days?) and we won by a large margin.

Will the Rice game be available on TV and/or computer?

[stodgdog]

prepare to be ripped but I like your attitude-- Higgins rode bench for years and turned out as one of best-- no bench for J-Mar - all we can do is hope he becomes the QB our coaches think he can become

I don't know why our other 2 QBs left, but they would have their opportunity this season, and pushed J'mar, which is probably what he needs. I don't know that there is any one behind him that can play.

[stodgdog]

I think they need discipline and coaching. Stupid penalties have killed us in the last two losses. Celebrating and doing dances after making a hard tackle for a 15 yd gain reflects on coaching and discipline. FWIW, I don't think "swagger and confidence" is lacking. They need less of that crap.

Make a TD, hand the ball to the ref. Make a good defensive play, huddle up and line up for the next play. Problem is, they don't do it that way even in HS these days and the big boys in the NFL don't do it. They did at one time. Wonder how all that changed? I liked it the old way. I don't know that coaching can change that any more, unless it starts in HS and ends in the NFL.

[Houston Techsan]

I did too and held out until last night. FWIW, I have been attending games at Tech since I was wee, as Daddy had season tickets for as long as I remember. Remember seeing Mickey Slaughter play at Tech, and many other games at the old stadium. I think it was Bradshaw's senior year when Aillet opened. My memory is our first game there was against Lamar (Lamar Tech in those days?) and we won by a large margin.

Will the Rice game be available on TV and/or computer?

The first game in the new stadium was Bradshaw's Jr. year (fall 1968) and was against East Carolina which we did win by a pretty large margin. I went to seven games that year. I probably had not been to seven games the previous three years.

The Rice game will be streamed on some off the wall service for a fee. See the Schedule Thread. I personally will be there because it's here in Houston. I have tried seeing all Tech games in Houston.

[BruceWillisDawg]

I think maybe there is some disconnect between our respective definitions of swagger and confidence. Cockiness and undisciplined play is just that, and is detrimental to team success. My interpretation of confidence and swagger is the belief in one's self and one's teammates that you will make the play that has to be made. Every great team has swagger. You can see, hear, and feel it. Tom Brady has swagger, when he walks up to the huddle on a fourth quarter drive and calls out the play his voice doesn't waiver because he knows he is going to make the play. This team has the talent to win out, they just need the switch to flip on both sides of the ball knowing that they will make the play, not just hoping to. You could see it when USM recovered the onside kick, a wave of defeat rushed over Techs sideline. You also saw it when the defense gave up the TD in the second overtime and the offense trotted out. The game was over right there because Tech was hoping to tie not expecting to.

No doubt our defense is better than last year by 14 yards & 6 pts per game. The 6 pts is the more important stat. Unfortunately our offense is scoring 17 less points per game - OUCH!
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[techman05]

It certainly would not surprise me either. USM QB was not very good. Anytime we got pressure he either threw a terrible pass or threw it away. Even on the completions many of those were thrown up as 50/50 balls to their taller than our dbs receivers. If UAB keeps pressure on him he will fold which is what we should have done. But instead we go prevent with 4:00 left in the game - typical Skip - play so conservative that your team doesnt make plays or create havoc. Our defense is 80th in total D. THATS NOT VERY GOOD. Skip has talked all year about how well they are playing but the #s dont lie. We have allowed below avg offenses to gain 400 yds against our defense leaving them on the field way too long because Baker doesnt believe in 3 and outs he believes in bending like a young LA pine.

How much better would the numbers against our defense be if we never went prevent? I bet much better than 80th.

[Dogsince65]

If Tech goes 7-5 then win their bowl game the record would be 8-5 and with 8 wins Holtz's contract rolls over for an extra year. Expectations are set way too low by Guice. It is hard to believe that someone could get a contract extension from this crap

get a life. lets see-- thru first 6 games we would be 5-1 with 4 more points. we lose to S Miss in double overtime with poor performance by qb but nothing close to the 6 picks Terry thru against them in 58-7 loss. You appear to be one of those fans that will move on pretty quick ( appears to be--) . Ride on my wagon of 52 years and you will dig a little deaper to understand we have started new players every game because of injuries this year and we all knew this would be tough year going in. I am ENJOYING the effort by our defense and I see a very young team that has a lot of potential-not crap --Guice is AWESOME !! you have zero idea why Guice loves Holtz-- Holtz travels all the time raising money for Tech athletics and education-- millions of dollars he has raised for Tech ... the big money supporters respect what he has done for program .. I am 100% behind Guice -Holtz-Tim etc. may I recommend you move to Rajun Cajun site and find out how to write a really nasty post--yours is lame --nothing we have not read 500 times, lose a game and start crying

[stodgdog]

The first game in the new stadium was Bradshaw's Jr. year (fall 1968) and was against East Carolina which we did win by a pretty large margin. I went to seven games that year. I probably had not been to seven games the previous three years.

The Rice game will be streamed on some off the wall service for a fee. See the Schedule Thread. I personally will be there because it's here in Houston. I have tried seeing all Tech games in Houston.

Thanks for the information. Hopefully, I can get the game on my computer. I had a pretty good memory at one time, I seem to remember. If you were a student in '68, I am definitely impressed with your recall. I entered Tech as a student in the fall of '73. KLPI was a great radio station in those days, BTW. Don't know why that came to mind. Maybe it was just late night, but the DJs would often say "You are listening to the radio, KLPI - Ruston."

[Dogsince65]

No doubt our defense is better than last year by 14 yards & 6 pts per game. The 6 pts is the more important stat. Unfortunately our offense is scoring 17 less points per game - OUCH!
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read a site about the Rice game and it says we allow 27 points a game and score 28. That said-- does that add in the defensive TDs to offense and pick six against offense. I don't know -- I was surprised to see we average 400 yards offense per game and give up about 400 . this post meant as question

[Dogsince65]

How much better would the numbers against our defense be if we never went prevent? I bet much better than 80th.

this is NOT meant to disagree just a personal belief ... last few years we seemed to be in shootouts and receivers running around wide open -- a lot of easy tds-- this team seems to have d backs around all the time and we allow the old "bend but don't break " going-- takes opponent a lot of time and patience to score--last Saturday SM held ball 30 minutes thru first 45 minutes and only 1 td . I'm comfortable what these young players are doing and believe they given us what we need-- how about Sedrick getting fumble on goal line- Amick getting the overtime pick ( one of all time stupid calls by SM coach--why take that chance). One thing I know for sure, most of us do not like prevent defense nor do we like ball control -slow offense ... I like bend but don't break but not prevent ... can't explain the difference