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That would be a H-U-G-E mistake. I would trust PD's talent evaluation LONG before I would Holtz's. Same for some others on this board too.Originally Posted by eagle2180
People like you honestly believe coaches are infallible. That's just foolish. Many coaches get fired every year because they aren't.
We are not very good at QB obviously.....J'mar is probably our best option. Yes that sucks, but that's how it is.
J'Mar has regressed. That's coaching.
The coaching won't improve with a new QB. Maybe Holtz is stubborn. Maybe Elliot can't make half the throws...maybe both.
Either way, you won't see Elliot unless J'Mar gets injured.
I don't believe that. Or, at least we certainly don't know that for sure. We haven't been given the opportunity to see Westin Elliot, except for the one (1) 93 yard TD drive he executed perfectly against Mississippi Sate. There was certainly nothing about that drive that indicated he should be backing up what I saw yesterday.
Everyone's all-star is the QB coach.....If we're gonna blame the DC for the defensive problems...
If it's true, it's true.
Do you think J'Mar has regressed?
Some have defended Tim, I am not sure myself, but I do know Tim was QB who called his own plays and had a great football IQ. Now, maybe all of that does not translate into good coaching, maybe some blame lies with Tim, and if it doesn't, Rattay is still not going to throw anyone under the Bus. Most of us hold Tim in high regard, but we know he is not infallible, we have to face it until we know different, Tim could be responsible for some of this.
I don't know. Everyone on here proclaimed him to be a stud after the Arkansas game last year. Holtz said, hold up and started Higgins the rest of the year. Holtz brought us Sokol and Driskell, stayed with Higgins....J'mar is athletic and has potential, the game hasn't slowed down for him yet.
That's it? That's all you got?Thank you, Captain Obvious!!
God help you if you ever have to make a decision about something material.
Well if you want the truth, no, I don't think he has regressed. He's not very good....but still better than the other choice Elliot. The two guys that could have challenged for the position quit and went elsewhere because they were not competitors.That's it? That's all you got?
God help you if you ever have to make a decision about something material.
It won't matter who the coach is with J'Mar. Having played the position, I can tell you exactly what his problem is: if his first read is not open, he looks at the oncoming rushers instead of keeping his eyes downfield to go to his 2nd and 3rd progression. And while this almost certainly is the result of having an OL that is the equivalent of a wet paper towel, the simple truth is that the QB's job is to hang in the pocket as long as he can... and even take the hit when necessary.
At this point, J'Mar has been hit too many times and now has "happy feet" because (and rightfully so) he has no confidence in his O-line. This is why, other than some errant passes in recent weeks, J'Mar looks fairly solid when throwing the ball within 2-3 seconds. But when his first read is not open and he has to hold onto the ball any longer than 3 seconds, you will notice he starts dancing in the pocket and will start running around like a chicken with its head cut off... like he's trying to get out of a car that's on fire. Bottom line is, the "toughness" needed to stand in the pocket, go through the reads, and deliver an accurate pass when you know you're going to get hit is not "learned." Some guys have it and some guys don't. And for the record, I never did... which is why I know it when I see it.
And while there are things we could do to simplify the passing game and get J'Mar out of the pocket, I don't think we'll ever see them due to the consistent hard-headedness on our sideline.
It’s not all that complicated. Everybody with any football sense saw it unfolding play by play on the field and have defined it very accurately in a great many of the posts since the UNT loss. Holtz is and has been coaching his team to effortless unimaginative loses and will continue to do so. He is the team’s single greatest weak link.
I believe what I’m seeing is a coach who has no confidence in his players’ abilities to win on their athleticism or their football brains, so he is coaching a very very conservative game scheme to minimize any potential errors in hopes that the football gods will have a few wins fall his way. That obviously hasn’t been happening.
I honestly don’t expect to see any changes for the remaining games, the players are not going to get football smarter or any more physically capable, so Holtz is going to continue his conversative approach. The only way he’ll do something different is if some team starts to beat the snot out of Tech. Then he’ll be forced to open things up and just go for it.
Exactly! It goes back to the coaches......Holtz and Rattay. They need to go to plan b, c, d and e if necessary. Roll him out and let him work outside the pocket. By the way, I played the QB position, and I stunk. It's a hard position to excel at, and it is a head job. I believe I had the smarts and the instinct, but not the physical abilities to make it all happen. The current QB has the physical abilities, but lacks some of the intangibles to make him successful.
You just may see that happen this weekend. We will see if, or when, it does how Holtz reacts. I'm not optimistic.
Exactly, he probably played in a high school system where the coach told him where to throw the ball, or he had the athletic ability to make a play....It happens with a lot of great high school Qb's ( Brandon Harris).
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