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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    President Trump used his predecessor's own words against him when he quoted President Obama's forceful 2005 opposition to illegal immigration, but he could have cherry-picked an old quote from any number of top Democrats on the controversial subject.
    On Tuesday, Trump tweeted a 2005 video in which then Senator Obama made a statement against illegal immigration, accompanied by the comment "I agree with President Obama 100%".


    “We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States,” Obama said in the 31-second clip. “But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.”
    He added: “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country.”

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...74705491120133
    Real author or not, I like the questions.

    How is this happening to our country, and why do people try to make us seem inhuman, because we don't want all these illegals here?The media continues to brainwash, and we are letting them get away with it!

    THE CARAVAN OF CRAP




    The Hondurans in the caravan, the 7,000 people walking north to America, where do they go to the bathroom?

    And eat and sleep and store their clothes?

    And how is it that after a week on the road they are clean and their hair and clothes are well kept?

    How is any of this possible?

    And why do these people, supposedly fleeing intolerable conditions in their homeland, carry little flags from their homeland and break into its national anthem when the TV cameras show up?

    And speaking of which, for oppressed people, they all seem to be pretty well fed, well groomed and well dressed. Their hair is neat and newly cut, their clothes are clean and in good repair, and they are built like people who have had ample nutrition all their lives, being well developed and, many of them, overweight.

    And none of them look dirty or unkempt, like they had been sleeping on the ground for the last week.

    There’s just nothing in any of this that makes sense.

    Supposedly, these several thousand people spontaneously decided to leave Honduras, walking north in a group, hoping to trek the length of gang-plagued Mexico and present themselves as refugees and prospective Democrats at the American border.

    Which, again, makes no sense whatsoever.

    And leaves a lot of big questions unanswered, and ignored by the press. Such as, who organized this? Who is paying for it? How have they covered 500 miles in a week?

    Seriously. Any number of American “reporters” have walked beside a sympathetic walker and talked about how this particular woman and her children had trekked half a thousand miles over the last week or so.

    That’s 71 miles a day.

    The best soldiers through history have been able to march 25 miles a day.

    How have 7,000 people been fed and watered? And how have they gone to the bathroom? If the average person across the world produces about a pound of solid waste a day, that means that these folks are somehow disposing of more than three tons of feces each day.

    That’s a heck of a lot of crap, even for a Central American roadway.

    Provisioning such an army of people – the equivalent of 10 combat battalions in most of the world’s militaries – is a large task. Transporting and distributing the food and water necessary to keep those people moving is a massive chore which the press says nothing about.

    The entire enterprise, as a spontaneous ad hoc event, is implausible.

    As an orchestrated international attempt to influence an American election, it starts to make sense.

    And ought to alarm us.

    Unless it’s only Russians we don’t want screwing with our democracy.

    Unfortunately, none of this has made the evening news. It’s almost as if the press, in whatever scheme is afoot, gladly accepts its role as propagandists to the American people.

    Every story is sympathetic, as if an attempt to enlist viewers and readers in this caravan and the politics it symbolizes.

    And so the story is not about an orchestrated attempt to manipulate electoral opinion and violate the borders and laws of the United States, it is about compassion and Trump and xenophobia and racism. It is the October surprise, it is the Blue Wave.

    And it is all nonsense.

    Because all of these people, if legitimate, have the ability to apply for American asylum in their own country – as do the residents of most nations of the world. We have consulates and embassies for a reason, and this is one of those reasons.

    We also have laws and an oath of office for a reason.

    Laws, so that “we the people” through our elected representatives clearly and systematically govern our society. Law is the means by which the people express and exercise their sovereignty. Disobedience to law is disobedience to the will of the people, it is the subverting of their sovereignty and franchise.

    Breaking the law is denying you the vote. Your vote elects representatives – lets you pick the country’s direction – and the representatives write the law. If that law is ignored, your representation becomes meaningless.

    You get screwed.

    And the oath of office?

    Members of Congress – even Democrats – swear an oath to “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution, which establishes our system of laws and specifically charges the Congress with making the rules of naturalization and immigration.

    Who comes across the border and under what conditions they can stay is a constitutional responsibility of the Congress. That is to be determined by a congressional vote, not by a Honduran mob.

    Failure to insist on that – even for Democrats – is a violation of your congressman’s oath of office.

    So there is not a Democrat or Republican response to this travelling army of invaders – there is only an American response.

    And that is: Turn around and go home.

    Because the law of the United States does not allow a mass entry like this. The law does not declare the borders open.

    If Democrats and progressives don’t like that, they can try to change the law. If America’s progressives want open borders and believe all the world’s people have a right to live in the United States – as they say they do – then they should adjust immigration law accordingly.

    But until then, if they are to keep their oaths of office, they must stand for the law and the border.

    And they must tell their surrogates to turn around and go home.

    Because this caravan is nothing more than a bunch of political shit.


    - by Bob Lonsberry © 2018




















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    Re: Immigration

    With the assistance of charities, both the organizing charity in Honduras and mostly Catholic charities outside of Honduras. You really didn’t know this?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    With the assistance of charities, both the organizing charity in Honduras and mostly Catholic charities outside of Honduras. You really didn’t know this?
    I don't believe that for a minute other than Catholic churches in Mexico helping to feed and water if needed now that their own government didn't stop the influx of illegals. This is planned and organized by the liberal left and/or globalist organizations.

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    Re: Immigration

    Pueblo Sin Fronteras has organized several of these, so they have already kind of established how it works. A Honduran lawmaker has provided assistance with the present one, but he was detained in Guatemala.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I don't believe that for a minute other than Catholic churches in Mexico helping to feed and water if needed now that their own government didn't stop the influx of illegals. This is planned and organized by the liberal left and/or globalist organizations.
    Well, you don’t believe anything that doesn’t make a good Republican taking point. And truth, fortunately, is not dependent on what YOU believe.

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    Re: Immigration

    The liberal left and/or globalist organizations are just hoping for a ton of teargas and water cannon pointed at a few woman and children for the TV and magazines. But Trump will stop them no matter.

    Trump tells migrant caravan to turn around, as troops being sent to border


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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    The liberal left and/or globalist organizations are just hoping for a ton of teargas and water cannon pointed at a few woman and children for the TV and magazines. But Trump will stop them no matter.

    Trump tells migrant caravan to turn around, as troops being sent to border
    It will no doubt please the violence loving portion of his base.

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    Re: Immigration

    Authorities just recovered seven unaccompanied minors from human smugglers inside caravan







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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    The liberal left and/or globalist organizations are just hoping for a ton of teargas and water cannon pointed at a few woman and children for the TV and magazines. But Trump will stop them no matter.

    Trump tells migrant caravan to turn around, as troops being sent to border
    When you say “globalist organizations” are you talking about corporations?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    When you say “globalist organizations” are you talking about corporations?
    You know exactly who and what I speak of.
    This new article lays out just some of them.

    Politics, motivation of caravan organizers in question as analysts point to deliberate chaos


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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    You know exactly who and what I speak of.
    This new article lays out just some of them.

    Politics, motivation of caravan organizers in question as analysts point to deliberate chaos
    But aren’t corporations inherently globalist?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    But aren’t corporations inherently globalist?
    Elitist leftist, socialist and communist politicians are inherently globalist. True conservatives are far from being globalist. RINOs like the Bush family along with every liberal politician (Clintons/Gore/Obama etc..) were "One World Order" guys and gals but to me "Globalist" implies something even further to the left. And yes corporations might sell their product on a global scale but they aren't at all what the geopolitical definition is of globalist. Again, true conservatives are very far from being globalist.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Elitist leftist, socialist and communist politicians are inherently globalist. True conservatives are far from being globalist. RINOs like the Bush family along with every liberal politician (Clintons/Gore/Obama etc..) were "One World Order" guys and gals but to me "Globalist" implies something even further to the left. And yes corporations might sell their product on a global scale but they aren't at all what the geopolitical definition is of globalist. Again, true conservatives are very far from being globalist.
    What is the definition of globalist?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    With the assistance of charities, both the organizing charity in Honduras and mostly Catholic charities outside of Honduras. You really didn’t know this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    When you say “globalist organizations” are you talking about corporations?
    Iran and China have the most to gain from political disruption at this point. I don't think the Catholic Church is all about causing political disruption in the US. Nice try though.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Iran and China have the most to gain from political disruption at this point. I don't think the Catholic Church is all about causing political disruption in the US. Nice try though.
    I think the churches are more concerned with dealing with the humanitarian needs of the caravan - food, water, and shelter rather than causing political disruption. They didn’t organize it but they are providing support for the travelers. You know, in a “providing room in the inn” sort of way.

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