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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Apparently our 5th year guy needed some baby sitting.

    Y'all remember how Bicknell had no curfew on road trips? Remember how that worked at at USC and at Boise before the bowl game?

    Gotta baby sit some of the prima donnas.
    And at LSU

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by latech View Post
    man - you guys are crazy to not hold the head coach or the AD accountable for this incident.
    the school paid those guys (HC and AD) a lot of money to run their program and invested a lot of money into the program ( facilities, player's scholarships, room and board, etc.). When the employee/players whom the HC/AD hired/recruited messed up the school investment you are telling me that is not part of the HC/AD's fault.
    I have not held my tongue (keyboard) at all in the past concerning Skip and Tommy, I have been pretty critical and firm in my opinion on them. I cannot see laying the blame on them though, no different when you have a star employee who bombs a drug screen and you have to do something about it. You hired that employee, maybe trained him, and was very pleased with his work and job performance. You have an outside firm coming in doing your testing and his number comes up and "boom!" he fails. The company policy is that you fire him, or maybe some other punishment, but those are the rules and you have to follow through with them.

    Now, is this your fault, if it is, should you be disciplined also, after all, it was under your watch. How were you supposed to know what that employee was doing at all times and be responsible for his actions. Does not sound very fair to the supervisor to me.

    Just my take and opinion on it though.

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    Re: Suspensions

    On the radio this morning they mentioned Jackson hasn't played since Southern Miss.

    Anybody know if Jackson's lack of playing time was suspension related and he had already served one of his two games?

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I take it you've never been married ...
    Never thought of it, but that's funny!

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    Re: Suspensions

    If we had players popping positive all the time. You could attribute it to the accepted culture of the locker room. These coaches can’t sit in the players apartments on a random Wednesday night to be sure they don’t do something stupid.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by latech View Post
    man - you guys are crazy to not hold the head coach or the AD accountable for this incident.
    the school paid those guys (HC and AD) a lot of money to run their program and invested a lot of money into the program ( facilities, player's scholarships, room and board, etc.). When the employee/players whom the HC/AD hired/recruited messed up the school investment you are telling me that is not part of the HC/AD's fault.
    Exactly how will the HC, or anyone for that matter, monitor one's behavior on a point that it is reasonable to assume has been related to them? I guess Tech could hire 85 Magnum PIs to keep up with each scholarship player.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    Some folks expect too much of our HC and look for any reason to "impeach" him. We've had enough of that from a few fronts. It is not helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    They can’t control every aspect of these guys’ life.
    Right we shouldn't expect a guy making almost $1M per year to keep up with his key player and make sure they don't cost the team due to REPEATEDLY breaking rules.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by latech View Post
    man - you guys are crazy to not hold the head coach or the AD accountable for this incident.
    the school paid those guys (HC and AD) a lot of money to run their program and invested a lot of money into the program ( facilities, player's scholarships, room and board, etc.). When the employee/players whom the HC/AD hired/recruited messed up the school investment you are telling me that is not part of the HC/AD's fault.
    Honestly man your kidding yourself if you think this is Skip or TMAC fault. They weren't there when Jmar and Hardy started to light the bowl up and pass it around. If they were you think they would have encouraged it? if you go home and beat up on your wife, rob a store, or use drugs is it your boss fault?
    No.... its them and their dumba$$ friends who they associate themselves with.

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    Re: Suspensions

    We all know that part of going off to college and not have momma/daddy micro managing you is part of growing up, the maturation process. It's evident now that who should have been the offense team captain but wasn't still has some growing up to do.

    I think HCSH has handled/and is handling this very well. He's tight lipped about it so as to keep our opponent guessing, possibly building a game plan only to have to change the game plan with less than 24 hours till kickoff (good), AND not outing and throwing his players under the bus by sharing all kinds of details. These players have futures as men and as possibly employees; my hope is they will learn from this and be better men because of it. Not giving them a pass here, but it's in the past.

    Aaron Allen is our O leader tonight. Honestly, I have not been this excited for a game since LSU last year. Hammer down tonight Dawgs..

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Right we shouldn't expect a guy making almost $1M per year to keep up with his key player and make sure they don't cost the team due to REPEATEDLY breaking rules.
    I thought the "key player" was not very good according to many. How do you know it is "repeatedly" and how is one to constantly monitor another's behavior? Seems to me the only way is through testing and it is reasonable to assume the "key player" was "repeatedly" made aware a test would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Right we shouldn't expect a guy making almost $1M per year to keep up with his key player and make sure they don't cost the team due to REPEATEDLY breaking rules.
    You cannot keep up with every aspect of these guys lives, it is impossible, prisoners get access to drugs in jail, how are you going to keep it away from a student or a student away from it? I see your point that maybe these were habitual offenders, but maybe this was the straw that broke the camels back for HCSH. These players have limited playing time left, long shot at ever going NFL, and maybe these players feel like they are untouchable as #1's and key games coming up where they are needed. We just don't know everything that goes on inside the program which leads me to put this in the "personal responsibility" category and not the "it's someone else's fault" category.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rama Jama View Post
    We all know that part of going off to college and not have momma/daddy micro managing you is part of growing up, the maturation process. It's evident now that who should have been the offense team captain but wasn't still has some growing up to do.

    I think HCSH has handled/and is handling this very well. He's tight lipped about it so as to keep our opponent guessing, possibly building a game plan only to have to change the game plan with less than 24 hours till kickoff (good), AND not outing and throwing his players under the bus by sharing all kinds of details. These players have futures as men and as possibly employees; my hope is they will learn from this and be better men because of it. Not giving them a pass here, but it's in the past.

    Aaron Allen is our O leader tonight. Honestly, I have not been this excited for a game since LSU last year. Hammer down tonight Dawgs..
    I agree, and at this point, like you and others, I agree with how Holtz has handled it.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Half these chucks on this forum pointing blame at anybody other than the players guilty haven't taken a snap of organized football in their life.

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    Re: Suspensions

    I don't blame Holtz or TMac. I am curious about their anti-drug policies and actions, though.

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    Re: Suspensions

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDawg8 View Post
    Half these chucks on this forum pointing blame at anybody other than the players guilty haven't taken a snap of organized football in their life.
    or maybe they are just in the "safe space" crowd instead of the "personal responsibility" crowd

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