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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Kind of like ALL the other TV networks had/have one with Obama and Hillary. It's like 10 to 1 and we still kick your ass.
    So true!

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Kind of like ALL the other TV networks had/have one with Obama and Hillary. It's like 10 to 1 and we still kick your ass.
    I don’t remember Obama making pillow talk to those guys like Trump does with Hannity. How many times did officials transition from msm jobs to Obama admin jobs and vice versa compared to the Trump administration and FoxNews? It isn’t remotely comparable.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    [QUOTE=Guisslapp;1755828]I don’t remember Obama making pillow talk to those guys like Trump does with Hannity. How many times did officials transition from msm jobs to Obama admin jobs and vice versa compared to the Trump administration and FoxNews? It isn’t remotely comparable.[/QUOTE


    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...-obamas-media-


    There are more than a dozen examples from a media appalled by a president tapping members of the media to serve in important posts in his administration.

    Is there precedent for such decision-making in the Oval Office? Of course. But thanks to the bias of omission, the reader or viewer would never know that the prior administration puts this one to shame for the revolving door from media to the White House and State Department.

    In the first four years alone in the Obama administration, more than 25 former reporters joined the team by my count. Yup. 25.


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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t remember Obama making pillow talk to those guys like Trump does with Hannity. How many times did officials transition from msm jobs to Obama admin jobs and vice versa compared to the Trump administration and FoxNews? It isn’t remotely comparable.[/QUOTE


    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...-obamas-media-


    There are more than a dozen examples from a media appalled by a president tapping members of the media to serve in important posts in his administration.

    Is there precedent for such decision-making in the Oval Office? Of course. But thanks to the bias of omission, the reader or viewer would never know that the prior administration puts this one to shame for the revolving door from media to the White House and State Department.

    In the first four years alone in the Obama administration, more than 25 former reporters joined the team by my count. Yup. 25.

    Trump has 21 from FoxNews alone listed in the below article..

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...n-2019-5%3famp

    Then you can add in Kudlow (CNBC), Bannon/Hahn (Breitbart), Sekulow (his own media empire/FoxNews).

    That takes you to 25 without even trying.

    We know that Trump consults informally with Hannity all the time.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post

    Trump has 21 from FoxNews alone listed in the below article..

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...n-2019-5%3famp

    Then you can add in Kudlow (CNBC), Bannon/Hahn (Breitbart), Sekulow (his own media empire/FoxNews).

    That takes you to 25 without even trying.

    We know that Trump consults informally with Hannity all the time.
    Don't forget Rush...

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t remember Obama making pillow talk to those guys like Trump does with Hannity. How many times did officials transition from msm jobs to Obama admin jobs and vice versa compared to the Trump administration and FoxNews? It isn’t remotely comparable.
    Kicking your ass and making you like it.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    There are certainly some Dems in red states that will choose not to subject themselves to political risk to be on the losing side of a vote. Ultimately, they are cowards too.
    A case study in integrity and heroism. Bravo, Senator Doug Jones.

    “On the day I was sworn in as a United States Senator, I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. At the beginning of the impeachment trial, I took a second oath to do 'impartial justice' according to the same Constitution I swore to protect.
    "These solemn oaths have been my guides during what has been a difficult time for our country, for my state, and for me personally. I did not run for Senate hoping to participate in the impeachment trial of a duly-elected President, but I cannot and will not shrink from my duty to defend the Constitution and to do impartial justice.”

    "In keeping with my oaths, I resolved that throughout this process I would keep an open mind and hear all of the evidence before making a final decision on the charges against the President. For months, I have been studying the facts of this case exhaustively. I have read thousands of pages of transcripts, watched videos of testimony, taken copious notes, reviewed history and precedents and discussed this case with colleagues, staff, and constituents, in addition to having participated in the Senate trial over the past two weeks. After many sleepless nights, I have reluctantly concluded that the evidence is sufficient to convict the President for both abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.”

    "With the eyes of history upon us, I am acutely aware of the precedents this impeachment trial will set for future presidencies and Congresses. Unfortunately, I do not believe those precedents are good ones. I am particularly concerned that we have now set a precedent that a fair trial in the Senate does not include witnesses and documentary evidence, even when those witnesses have first-hand information and the evidence would provide the Senate and the American people with a more complete picture of the truth.”

    "I am also deeply troubled by the partisan nature of these proceedings from start to finish. Very early on I implored my colleagues in both houses of Congress to stay out of their partisan corners. Many did, but so many did not. The country deserves better. We must find a way to rise above the things that divide us and find the common good.
    "Having done my best to see through the fog of partisanship, I am deeply troubled by the arguments put forth by the President's lawyers in favor of virtually unchecked presidential power. In this case, the evidence clearly proves the President used the weight of his office and that of the United States government to seek to coerce a foreign government to interfere in our election for his personal political benefit. The President's actions placed his personal interests well above the national interests and threatened the security of the United States, our allies in Europe, and our ally Ukraine. His actions were more than simply inappropriate. They were an abuse of power. With impeachment as the only check on such presidential wrongdoing, I felt I must vote to convict on the first charge of abuse of power.”

    "The second article of impeachment, obstruction of Congress, gave me even more pause. I have struggled to understand the House's strategy in their pursuit of documents and witnesses and wished they had done more. However, after careful consideration of the evidence developed in the hearings, the public disclosures, the legal precedents, and the trial, I believe the President deliberately and unconstitutionally obstructed Congress by refusing to cooperate with the investigation in any way. While I am sensitive to protecting the privileges and immunities afforded to the President and his advisors, I believe it is critical to our constitutional structure that we protect Congress' authorities also. In this matter it was clear from the outset that the President had no intention whatsoever of any accommodation with Congress when he blocked both witnesses and documents from being produced. In addition, he engaged in a course of conduct to threaten potential witnesses and smear the reputations of the civil servants who did come forward and provide testimony. The President's actions demonstrate a belief that he is above the law, that Congress has no power whatsoever in questioning or examining his actions, and that all who do so, do so at their peril. That belief, unprecedented in the history of this country, simply must not be permitted to stand. To do otherwise risks guaranteeing that no future whistleblower or witness will ever come forward and no future President — Democrat or Republican — will be subject to Congressional oversight as mandated by the Constitution.”

    “Senators are elected to make tough choices. We are required to study the facts of each issue before us and exercise our independent judgment in keeping with the oaths we take. The gravity of this moment, the seriousness of the charges, and the implications for future presidencies and Congresses all contributed to the difficulty with which I have arrived at my decision.”

    "This has been a divisive time for our country, but I think it has nonetheless been an important constitutional process for us to follow. As this chapter of history draws to a close, one thing is clear: our country deserves better than this. We must find a way to come together, to set aside partisan differences, and to focus on what we have in common as Americans. We are facing great challenges both domestically and internationally, but it remains my firm belief that united, we can conquer them and remain the greatest hope for people around the world."

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Turns out there is bipartisan support for conviction.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Turns out there is bipartisan support for conviction.
    And bipartisan for acquittal.

    Sorry but you and your party of choice were wrong and lost again Guisslapp.
    This is due to acting out of pure and evil hatred with zero common sense IMHO; much like Pelosi and the socialist Dems acting childish on live TV for the entire nation to observe last night.

    She and the Dems just lost the 2020 election for President and probably the congress as well.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Turns out there is bipartisan support for conviction.
    Romney is an attention whore, just like McCain was.

    If it was a vote that he struggled with and felt deeply about, he would have just voted that way. But he had to have the cameras and bright lights and an adoring media (that really hates him) surrounding him so he could show how virtuous he was.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Romney is an attention whore, just like McCain was.
    Well, he is a politician. And, you never know, being an attention whore got at least one guy the presidency!
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Hopefully he wasn't using a seer stone in a hat to figure out what to do.
    Just as useful as praying to any god.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Well, he is a politician. And, you never know, being an attention whore got at least one guy the presidency!
    He is/was a good one, too.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Well, he is a politician. And, you never know, being an attention whore got at least one guy the presidency!
    I would say every president ever, and most politicians in general.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    He is/was a good one, too.
    No doubt. Last tally I saw was 1.6 Billion in "free" media during the 2016 election. The good ones always get paid the most (or so I've heard).
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