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Can you imagine the outrage (contrived, fake though it would be) if a Republican governor had closed down a city like Cuomo has done to New Rochelle! OMG! Using national guard troops...carrying weapons! OMG! Nazism!
(wonder how Rob and Laura Petrie are holding up...)
1) Criticizing Trump's leadership vs. "hating Trump" is a false equivalence. But I think you know that.Originally Posted by PawDawg
2) I talked to all the liberals yesterday at our weekly luncheon:
a) None of them are enjoying the virus.
b) None of them are friends with Guiss.
In two months we will all look back and wonder why we overreacted so much to this.
If so, that means we reacted just enough not to have an Italian disaster.
I think Trump should adopt the Obama policy of never letting a good crisis go to waste.
If anything shows you have to control your borders and know who enters your country, this is it.
If anything shows what happens when you let other nations take advantage of you with trade, and in some cases take over multiple pieces of your supply chain that cannot be easily and quickly replaced, this is it. We need a thriving steel industry and energy industry here in the US, not to mention a pharmaceutical industry that is not dependent on other nations for supplies (I heard we don't even make the base compound for vaccines here, so when China decides to stop selling it to us....).
China is not our friend, and we should encourage (via tariffs) American industries to move away from having our economic development dependent on them. They are a highly secretive communist dictatorship that is hell bent on destroying us.
Not virus related, but....The Saudis and Russians should have all of their oil output heavily tariffed here in the US. I am not buying their explanation about why they are flooding the market (dumping) with cheap oil. I think they are thick as thieves and are colluding to destroy the US shale industry, which is bad for our national security. I know that many on here are too young to remember the gas lines from the Carter era, but I do and don't ever want to repeat it.
Italian trends:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...es-15-000.html
I think it might be a bit too abstract for Americans to imagine the psychological injury communities will suffer if we get to rationing health care in the case of emergencies. When you have to become an advocate that your love one actually receive the treatment that they need and you are being told that someone else is getting the priority... These scars would be enduring.
This is what we are trying to avoid and it is worth it.
I think that hints at how it will be presented. I think the media response will be Trump got lucky that it wasn't much worse.
This is why we don't want socialized medicine. My family has experienced medical rationing in other countries. It is not a good thing.
Ok, either you and Hannity are right or the epidemiologist experts and business leaders that are taking action to stop the spread of this disease are right. Lol
Yep. I just saw that half of the passengers that tested positive on the cruise ship off of Japan had no symptoms. NONE.
You'd have to test every man woman and child (including all these illegals everyone on the left is so fond of) in the US, and even then you wouldn't catch everyone because there would be interaction between infected and non-infected individuals after they had been tested. Heck, even in there was no interaction after the test you should have already been exposed and still testing negative or just interact with something an infected person has touched.
All this hand wringing on the left (especially those with TDS on this board) is really tiresome and ignorant. Just take the same precautions you take with the flu and hope for the best.
If we exceed surge capacity for our local hospitals, what difference does it really make? How does our system not ration in that case?
I have only had one experience with socialized medicine and it was much cheaper and faster the US system. Same day, 100 euro, better drugs. Problem solved. Not that I would project that out over some sort of specialized problem requiring some sort of specialized, limited treatment options, but there are some aspects of socialized medicine that are actually better.
We are not trying to prevent the spread anymore. We are just trying to slow it, so it doesn’t overwhelm our health care resources. I think our epidemiologists know more than Hannity.
You are obviously one of those brilliant folks that stocked up on toilet paper.
You must love Hannity. You sure do mention him a lot.
Sleepy Joe sure pounced on it as a fund raiser.
We bought some beans and rice a couple of weeks ago to avoid having to go to the supermarket when this outbreak gets to its worst. If my wife didn’t have to visit a nursing home every day and help with a brother that just has open heart surgery, I wouldn’t have any personal concerns, though I would still do my part to try avoid being a vector for the spread of this virus.
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