Covid - 19

[Guisslapp]

Er...right?

I would have voted against it. We are talking about government policy here, not personal finances. That whataboutism has always been the dumbest of them all.

[dawg80]

I would have voted against it. We are talking about government policy here, not personal finances. That whataboutism has always been the dumbest of them all.

In other words you are just as big a hypocrite as you come across as. No surprise...

[tech70]

He is a professional contrarian, nothing more.

[Guisslapp]

In other words you are just as big a hypocrite as you come across as. No surprise...

That is not hypocrisy. If I am forced to suffer the detriment, then it makes no sense to eschew the benefit. You have invented a dumb, false ethical dilemma that only a mouth breather would adopt.

[The Historian]

What's still the most fascinating aspect of this for me is the disconnect between how the media is covering this story in one way.

We're seeing the stories about how young adults are reacting to this vs. older generations. But what we haven't seen are stories in the national media about how America outside the urban centers is reacting to this.

The state of Louisiana is one example. Testing has dramatically increased in the past few days in areas of the state outside of New Orleans. Yet, areas like Lafayette, Ruston/Monroe, Lake Charles, and Alexandria still have no cases. Should small businesses in those areas go under before there is a proven indication of a problem? That discussion is everywhere on social media and touches virtually every state in America. You would never know it by watching the national media.

[detltu]

Twss

Ok that one really made me laugh for some reason. Well done.

[dawg80]

That is not hypocrisy. If I am forced to suffer the detriment, then it makes no sense to eschew the benefit. You have invented a dumb, false ethical dilemma that only a mouth breather would adopt.

Gotcha (wink, wink)....hypocrite.

BTW, it is an easy process to donate to the US Treasury, you can do it with your annual tax return. It's on the form.

[johnnylightnin]

What's still the most fascinating aspect of this for me is the disconnect between how the media is covering this story in one way.

We're seeing the stories about how young adults are reacting to this vs. older generations. But what we haven't seen are stories in the national media about how America outside the urban centers is reacting to this.

The state of Louisiana is one example. Testing has dramatically increased in the past few days in areas of the state outside of New Orleans. Yet, areas like Lafayette, Ruston/Monroe, Lake Charles, and Alexandria still have no cases. Should small businesses in those areas go under before there is a proven indication of a problem? That discussion is everywhere on social media and touches virtually every state in America. You would never know it by watching the national media.

There are certainly more tests available, but there are not nearly enough to test all who may be suspected. If your symptoms are not worthy of a hospital stay, you'll likely just be told to self quarantine and NOT tested so as to reserve the tests for those who may be in more dire need or who are in a much higher risk group.

The market will not settle down with stimulus. It will only settle once the virus strategy is proven effective.

[detltu]

What's still the most fascinating aspect of this for me is the disconnect between how the media is covering this story in one way.

We're seeing the stories about how young adults are reacting to this vs. older generations. But what we haven't seen are stories in the national media about how America outside the urban centers is reacting to this.

The state of Louisiana is one example. Testing has dramatically increased in the past few days in areas of the state outside of New Orleans. Yet, areas like Lafayette, Ruston/Monroe, Lake Charles, and Alexandria still have no cases. Should small businesses in those areas go under before there is a proven indication of a problem? That discussion is everywhere on social media and touches virtually every state in America. You would never know it by watching the national media.

The media is still amazing. They finally found one they can exploit. I was reading an article this morning from a 48 year old woman who was recovering from coronavirus and wanted everyone to know how brutal it really is. She was sick for about a day and a half. Fever, cough, headache, lethargy etc. The doctors gave her a pain reliever for the headache and an antibiotic just in case while they waited for the test results. Once the test results came back she was already feeling better and they sent her home and told her to self quarantine.

The tone of the article seemed to be how much people are underestimating the disease, but the content didn't really support the tone IMO. I've read a few articles with similar tone and similar tales of woe. If you are over 50 and have other health issues you need to be extra cautious. If you are under 50, don't freak out and follow the rules and you should be fine.

[Guisslapp]

What's still the most fascinating aspect of this for me is the disconnect between how the media is covering this story in one way.

We're seeing the stories about how young adults are reacting to this vs. older generations. But what we haven't seen are stories in the national media about how America outside the urban centers is reacting to this.

The state of Louisiana is one example. Testing has dramatically increased in the past few days in areas of the state outside of New Orleans. Yet, areas like Lafayette, Ruston/Monroe, Lake Charles, and Alexandria still have no cases. Should small businesses in those areas go under before there is a proven indication of a problem? That discussion is everywhere on social media and touches virtually every state in America. You would never know it by watching the national media.

Many of these smaller towns have even less capacity to handle an outbreak.

The problem is that there hasn’t been nearly enough testing to know that it isn’t already in these areas. This virus spreads fast and easily. (Boyd - comment about Bernice).

[dawg80]

Hell! I contracted a bad case of the flu returning from Europe. Turned out to be a strain of the flu from Sub-Sahara Africa. Ran fever of 104 and felt pretty icky for a week. My doctor, after running tests, sending samples off to the CDC, told me later about it being identified as a strain of flu not included in the annual flu shot we all get. But, only my son, who picked me up at the airport, developed flu-like symptoms after being around me. So, must not have been highly contagious. Of course, I do not know what happened to the roughly 250 other passengers on the same flight home from London to Houston. Maybe they too all got sick.

I hope and pray Covid-19 truly turns out to be "much ado about nothing." That beats the alternative. But, I also hope we, Americans, will have learned a valuable lesson about: 1) better managing immigration and even short-term visitors, and 2) bringing back manufacturing to our shores...especially pharmaceuticals.

[Guisslapp]

The media is still amazing. They finally found one they can exploit. I was reading an article this morning from a 48 year old woman who was recovering from coronavirus and wanted everyone to know how brutal it really is. She was sick for about a day and a half. Fever, cough, headache, lethargy etc. The doctors gave her a pain reliever for the headache and an antibiotic just in case while they waited for the test results. Once the test results came back she was already feeling better and they sent her home and told her to self quarantine.

The tone of the article seemed to be how much people are underestimating the disease, but the content didn't really support the tone IMO. I've read a few articles with similar tone and similar tales of woe. If you are over 50 and have other health issues you need to be extra cautious. If you are under 50, don't freak out and follow the rules and you should be fine.

Exploit in which direction?

There are many that haven’t recovered yet that have been on ventilation in the hospital for more than a week.

[The Historian]

Many of these smaller towns have even less capacity to handle an outbreak.

The problem is that there hasn’t been nearly enough testing to know that it isn’t already in these areas. This virus spreads fast and easily. (Boyd - comment about Bernice).

Agreed. But it's still a story that no one in the national media has touched.

[Guisslapp]

My colleagues in Shanghai have been working from home since the lunar new year.

Do you know what that sort of disease control would do to small businesses in the US? Many can’t afford to pay salaried employees that long if their businesses are effectively shut down for several weeks.

Just going to highlight the fact that some of us were aware of thus impact on small business WEEKS ago. Why Trump et al were incapable of taking action on this before now doesn’t matter. Failure.

[PawDawg]

Just going to highlight the fact that some of us were aware of thus impact on small business WEEKS ago. Why Trump et al were incapable of taking action on this before now doesn’t matter. Failure.

Well your only solution two weeks ago was testing. You questioned why that took so long. You got the answer...red tape. Not sure why you refuse to believe that and seem convinced that Obama's guys would have done SO much better.