Cases are "presumptive" until the CDC confirms. Presumptive cases, I would assume, are included in the test numbers because they DO represent a positive case.Originally Posted by techman05
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Cases are "presumptive" until the CDC confirms. Presumptive cases, I would assume, are included in the test numbers because they DO represent a positive case.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
Thank HEAVEN Trump is president during this time.
Once this is over, I hope he keeps decoupling us from being dependent on the rest of the world. Being dependent on other nations for building supplies (steel, etc.), medicine (I see India, our great friend, has just banned exports of the malaria drug, and we depend on China for much of our other medical supplies and medicines), and food.
Boeing and US Steel are critical to our defense. ADM is critical to our food supply. We need to fill our strategic reserves with $20 oil, then put tariffs on all imported oil to bring imports in line with what we produce here by fracking in the Permian basin. AMERICA FIRST....
Thank God for President Trump.
So what do we do now? Everything else is water under the bridge. Agree or disagree with what's been done or 'conjecturing' at what should have been done (or what you would have done) doesn't help the present situation. Is everything now being done that should be?
Should the very radical step of shutting down New York City and other hot spots be performed? Doing this would control who comes in and out of these areas until the virus is under control. We have to somehow limit the traveling ability of people infected with the virus. Asking people to self quarantine for 14 days isn't going to totally work. If we don't do this a place that is basically clean could become reinfected.
Other than this should we just let it run its course? I don't think we've been fighting the morality rate but the infection rate regarding those taking up medical services (beds and ventilators). I know if we exceed the services then mortality goes up.
I primarily see reports of mild cases versus moderate/serious but don't see anything really about percent hospitalized, at least not for recent cases. Anyone seen anything related to this. To me this is a more vital statistic than the actual number of cases.
NYC hospitalization rate, where there is the most testing in the world, varies between 12 and 16 percent of positive cases.
Well maybe you don't suffer from TDS, or maybe it's bad enough you don't even realize it. Hard to tell. Maybe that is the difference. Trump is not at all who I feared he would be.
Trump Divinity Syndrome is a serious problem for sure.
There's plenty of bad behavior that transcends partisan divisions.
Is there any such behavior that would change your thinking? Or is liberalism the only deal-killer?
I don't think you've answered his question. I believe he's asking regarding the number of test performed, not whether they are positive or negative just the test itself. Therefore, if they report 10,000 test were performed and 5,000 were positive could you say 50% were positive. Or would the 10,000 include tests that had not yet been analyzed (not known if positive or negative). Not trying to slight you for the response just adding for clarity. For the record I don't know the answer.
Regarding your response and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the CDC is confirming positive results anymore. I thought I read where they were comfortable in the results being shown that this was no longer necessary.
Thanks. Is this information listed on any specific site or have you just seen the information from viewing article? If you have specific citations I could read please pass along. Just my curiosity.
To check your own TDS, see how you think folks would react if Hillary had done the exact same thing. If you think they'd be up in arms (as I am with Trump) had Hillary done the same thing, you know that there's hypocrisy here. I don't know you beyond the message board, so I can't speak for you, but there are a host of folks here who would've railroaded Hillary for doing what Trump has done. Good grief...you don't have to look beyond his spending (big government) pre-corona to see that.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
1. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. It was discussed earlier by the experts when we restricted travel from China. The recognition THEN was that we must already have case here and we needed to start to find them to control the spread. What the experts were discussing were doing COVID tests are part of the regular flu screening in areas that were statistically more likely to have them. These tend to be obvious cities connected to Wuhan - LA, SF, NYC.
The supposed red tape that has now been cleared around FDA testing could have and should have been done earlier. Those are DETAILS that get noticed and fixed when the response is given priority. In this case, this administration didn’t make testing (or any other aspect of the response beyond the travel ban) a priority until mid March.
2. Call it what you want it but the pandemic team used to have its own director and seat at the NSC. It got downsized and deprioritized to report up through a bioweapons group in 2018. This team would have gotten a head start on the DETAILS and would have had at least one fewer person to report to in order to elevate this to Trump’s attention.
3. Apart from travel restrictions, Trump has done nothing to shut down the economy. That had happened at the state, local and business level. That may ultimately make this problem last longer as this disease can continue to roll around as different communities try to open up at different times.
4. That comment was definitely not directed at you. I am specifically referring to Trump’s inability to accept information that doesn’t make him look good. He constantly discounts information and reports that could cause him political harm.
Governor Cuomo’s daily briefings. He always reports the current hospitalization rates. It has been as high as 16 percent and as low as 12 percent. Generally, the trend seems to be settling closer to 12 than 16.
Now the delay on Senate bill seems to be on the Republicans. Graham et al has some issues, which may be legitimate issues, but are now causing the delay.
Most of the bad behavior possible is already closely held by liberalism. One equals the other.
So after this quarantine ... will the producers of My 600 pound life just find me.... or do I call them... how does all of this work??
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