Covid - 19

[Guisslapp]

You are out of your mind! Even Obama is denying.

Btw, hers another example of a major liberal leadership screw-up.

EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus patients were sent to NYC hospital ship by mistake, US officials say

EXCLUSIVE - Multiple patients infected with coronavirus were transferred to the hospital ship Comfort from the Javits Center in New York by mistake, three U.S. officials tell Fox News.

The number of Covid-19 patients brought on board the hospital ship was estimated to be “less than five,” one official said.

The patients were transferred sometime Friday, according to the officials. At the time the patients were transferred to the hospital ship Comfort, the initial screening did not indicate they were positive, officials said.

The hospital ship is located on Pier 90 on Manhattan’s west side and arrived in New York Monday. The vessel has a “couple dozen” patients on board right now, according to chief Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman.

Part of the protocol before receiving patients onboard Comfort is for a coronavirus test to be performed. The swab test came back hours later, but not before the patients had spent a night onboard the vessel, which is only supposed to treat trauma patients, not Covid-19 positive patients.

About a dozen patients from the Javits Center in midtown Manhattan were transferred to the hospital ship Comfort Friday after President Trump approved New York Gov. Cuomo’s request to have Covid-19 patients treated at the Javits Center Thursday.

All the patients at Javits Center were then transferred to the hospital ship a short distance away where they were isolated and tested for the novel coronavirus.

This information has not been previously reported.

More
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavir...w-york-mistake

What “liberal” leadership are you blaming this one on? The Javits Center and Comfort are being staffed by the Army and Navy, respectively.

[MoonPieBlue]

You have to remember the timeline of all of this.

When this disease appeared to be contained in China - we thought it would work to restrict travel to limit the cases coming here and then test and isolate to control the spread. Well, that strategy depended on testing, which never got done. If you don’t test and isolate, you get community transmission and once that happens it is too late unless you can do even more widespread testing fast. We failed and couldn’t do this.

Once the disease left China and hit other countries, the test and isolate strategy was done. The disease was going to get seeded in new communities and go undetected as it spread frustrating the efforts to isolate. Once this happened, our only strategy became mitigation and suppression - any and all efforts to prevent transmission, otherwise testing would never be able to catch up with the spread.

While Trump acted decisively in restricting travel to China, a key part of the initial viable strategy - that strategy only could have kept the risk to Americans “minuscule” if we delivered on the test and isolate strategy. We should have been laser focused on that. It didn’t happen.

Once we knew the disease jumped to other countries, our strategy had to change right then and there. If was at this point that we should have planned for the US to suffer an epidemic and we should have started to implement steps to prepare for fighting the disease here - (1) identify the critical supplies and (2) prepare for the economic injury caused by the inevitable lockdown once we detected community spread here. This is what we should have been doing the last week of February and we were not doing this.

Once this showed up in multiple states and places like NYC it was time to get serious about locking down nationwide - doing the same things that Washington state was doing. We waited weeks before other states started to take these actions.

All of these weeks of delays results in more stress on the system, more lives lost, and more economic harm.

The reason I posted all of those links is all I've heard is Trump goes with his gut, Trump doesn't listen to the experts, Trump just does what he believes, everybody else knew it was a problem.

Until March 10th the person who may be named People's most Sexist Man, have a booble-head of him, and is touted as the Iatola of 'Pandemic' Rock-n-Rola was saying there is minuscule risk.

[Guisslapp]

The reason I posted all of those links is all I've heard is Trump goes with his gut, Trump doesn't listen to the experts, Trump just does what he believes, everybody else knew it was a problem.

Until March 10th the person who may be named People's most Sexist Man, have a booble-head of him, and is touted as the Iatola of 'Pandemic' Rock-n-Rola was saying there is minuscule risk.

Eh, Fauci has certainly risen to prominence in all this, but if you look at what he actually said when he described the risk as minuscule (this article from Feb 19, https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/4787209002)

But at the same time he also said:

If that testing shows the virus has slipped into the country in places federal officials don't know about, "we've got a problem," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told USA TODAY's Editorial Board Monday.

He was saying that the risk currently is low, but that could change. If you watch the video clip he makes that point more clear.

I mean it is clear that he is trying to relay the message to the public that they shouldn’t be fearing the coronavirus at that time, and he wasn’t sure at that time whether it would make it here, but if it did “that would change.”

[dawg80]

This was to be expected...and so much for stockpiling years in advance.

6,000 masks sent to Alabama were dry-rotted when the boxes were opened. And 150 ventilators in California don't work due to longterm storage.

The key to the future when this happens again, and it will, is to maintain an active supply of such PPEs, a supply constantly being replenished. BUT! with the capacity to produce more in very short order. Like the pundit said, the US maintains a fleet of battle tanks of about 8,000 vehicles. That's tanks in various stages of readiness but represents an inventory that will allow us to respond to any military event while new tanks are being built. Our manufacturers have currently idle assembly lines for tanks, for planes, for other vehicles, for rifles, etc, etc, etc...these factories can be quickly ramped up and start producing military equipment with a very short notification. Well, the same type of thing is needed for PPEs and other types of equipment, supplies that MIGHT be needed in large quantities but that are not needed in such numbers most of the time.

[techman05]

What's this...you getting another Post of the Day award!

I have probably maxed out my good posts for the month. I will probably just read others input until May 1.

[techman05]

But at the same time he also said:



He was saying that the risk currently is low, but that could change. If you watch the video clip he makes that point more clear.

I mean it is clear that he is trying to relay the message to the public that they shouldn’t be fearing the coronavirus at that time, and he wasn’t sure at that time whether it would make it here, but if it did “that would change.”

The good doctor said something that he either wasn’t fully informed on or it turned out to be completely false. Hang him! Crucify him! Tar and feather! He should not be trusted with his opinion.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

What “liberal” leadership are you blaming this one on? The Javits Center and Comfort are being staffed by the Army and Navy, respectively.

The liberal Democrat led NYC, Democrat led state of NY and the massive bastion of liberals in NYC that can’t seem to get anything right right now. They can’t even send the right patients to our Navy hospital ship in the harbor. Give me a break! Was this on
purpose or can’t they read? Idiots!

[techman05]

This was to be expected...and so much for stockpiling years in advance.

6,000 masks sent to Alabama were dry-rotted when the boxes were opened. And 150 ventilators in California don't work due to longterm storage.

The key to the future when this happens again, and it will, is to maintain an active supply of such PPEs, a supply constantly being replenished. BUT! with the capacity to produce more in very short order. Like the pundit said, the US maintains a fleet of battle tanks of about 8,000 vehicles. That's tanks in various stages of readiness but represents an inventory that will allow us to respond to any military event while new tanks are being built. Our manufacturers have currently idle assembly lines for tanks, for planes, for other vehicles, for rifles, etc, etc, etc...these factories can be quickly ramped up and start producing military equipment with a very short notification. Well, the same type of thing is needed for PPEs and other types of equipment, supplies that MIGHT be needed in large quantities but that are not needed in such numbers most of the time.

Where did you see this info? This explains a lot if it was the same across the country concerning all our stockpiles of equipment and supplies.

[Guisslapp]

The liberal Democrat led NYC, Democrat led state of NY and the massive bastion of liberals in NYC that can’t seem to get anything right right now. They can’t even send the right patients to our Navy hospital ship in the harbor. Give me a break! Was this on
purpose or can’t they read? Idiots!

It was the Army at the Javits Center that sent the patients to the Navy ship. Not the liberals.

[techman05]

d80, I found the articles. I guess that is the really tough thing in all of this. Obviously, the costs of stockpiling things that go unused and have to be thrown out is really high. Not a lot of incentive to just keep throwing stuff out and restocking waiting for a once every decade event.

[MoonPieBlue]

Eh, Fauci has certainly risen to prominence in all this, but if you look at what he actually said when he described the risk as minuscule (this article from Feb 19, https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/4787209002)

But at the same time he also said:



He was saying that the risk currently is low, but that could change. If you watch the video clip he makes that point more clear.

I mean it is clear that he is trying to relay the message to the public that they shouldn’t be fearing the coronavirus at that time, and he wasn’t sure at that time whether it would make it here, but if it did “that would change.”

So its like sitting on a surf board in the ocean next to Jeff Spicoli. "Dude, your risk of getting eaten by a shark is minuscule". "However if a fin appears behind you, man, all bets are off!" Thanks Jeff.

[dawg80]

It was the Army at the Javits Center that sent the patients to the Navy ship. Not the liberals.

And the Navy officials aboard the ship say their protocols worked to perfection. It was 5 patients who tested positive and they were properly isolated and then tossed over board....no! just kidding about that last part...they didn't isolate them, just threw them over board. No! just kidding again. Joking aside it was handled without issues.

[MoonPieBlue]

Seems some of the doctors believe in hydroxycholoroquine

https://www.wfae.org/post/nc-board-p...drugs#stream/0

[dawg80]

Seems some of the doctors believe in hydroxycholoroquine

https://www.wfae.org/post/nc-board-p...drugs#stream/0

There is a lot of noise about the anti-malaria drug, and whatever else they've been squawking about on TV. There have been several "tests" already, across the world, and they all point to the use of this drug or drugs appearing to work as both a vaccine and as a cure for those in early stages of C-19 infection. Seems to me it would be prudent to deploy this drug(s) and have it closely tracked.

[Guisslapp]

300k, 8.1k for the US presently. That is 2.7% mortality based on the metric we were computing the 1.3% mortality earlier.

On the economic front, GS/JPM projecting unemployment rate of 13-15% by June.