Family member of ours tested positive. Young grand baby lives with her. Exact same symptoms within a week of grandma. Tested negative. Had pneumonia and tested negative for the flu.
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Family member of ours tested positive. Young grand baby lives with her. Exact same symptoms within a week of grandma. Tested negative. Had pneumonia and tested negative for the flu.
Assume they are doing well?Originally Posted by techman05
I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?
Yes, both recovering at home
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New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off:
In 2006, then-New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration began purchasing ventilators to allow the city to be prepared for a pandemic like the current coronavirus crisis -- only for the city to later auction them off, according to a report.
ProPublica reported Monday that the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene issued a report in 2006 on the city's preparedness for pandemic influenza -- similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu or the 2019 novel coronavirus -- that projected the city would need thousands of extra ventilators in order to properly treat all of its residents who got sick. The plan was then put into action, with the city initially buying 500 ventilators before it ran out of money to buy more and to maintain the ones it had already stockpiled, according to ProPublica.
Those ventilators were then auctioned off some time before 2016 because the city could not afford to maintain them in working order, partially because the model of ventilator the city had purchased was no longer in production after 2009, the report said.
"We tried to fill in the gap as best we could," Dr. Issac Weisfuse, the former deputy commissioner of the city's health department, told ProPublica.
"This was beyond our control but had a direct impact on cost and viability of maintaining a stockpile," Michael Lanza, the current assistant press secretary for the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, said according to ProPublica.
The outlet also reported that New York City set out to purchase over one million N95 face masks -- the type suggested for use to protect against the coronavirus -- in order to distribute them to health professionals. It purchased less than one-quarter of that and the masks all eventually expired.
The city's shortage of supplies when coronavirus hit -- which was similar to many places across the country, including the federal government -- has led to a scramble for ventilators and masks by current New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who are requesting tens of thousands of ventilators for the city and state as a whole. The 2006 report commissioned by the Bloomberg administration appeared to preview such a scenario.
"A conservative-to-moderate estimate assumes that 25 percent of admitted patients requiring ICU care (with 50 percent of those receiving ICU care requiring ventilation)" would cause the city to fall somewhere between about 250 and 1,300 ventilators short of what it would need, according to the 2006 report obtained by ProPublica.
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My niece, a pediatric ICU RN in Florida, sent me some information re: C-19. It's a summary written by a friend of hers, an MD in the ER of a New Orleans hospital. He is on the front lines...no, he's in front of the front lines! It's not too long but is technical. I read it, and admittedly, he lost me after he typed, "Here's a summary..." Nah! just kidding. But I don't understand much of it, with the medical jargon. It was intended for other ER doctors who understand all those terms. What I did find interesting he said the average, and not only the average, but the mode to show acute symptoms is 5 days after exposure. He said they have been capturing date...have seen 300+ C-19 patients and it's 5 days of incubation. The complete range is 2 - 11 days, he said. Of the patients he has seen, 81% have very mild symptoms and are released fairly soon, 14% have severe symptoms requiring hospitalization/ventilators, and 5% are critical (notify next of kin). They are using Azithromycin, giving it via an IV, but they are running low on IVs! Who would have thought something so common would run short?
Anyway, thought it was interesting...even though I didn't understand much of it.
The more I see of this, the more I think some of the current treatments are doing more harm than good. The word was that the patients that are most critical go into ARDS fairly rapidly due to a cytokine storm, however, most of the ones that I have seen are not presenting this way. Classic ARDS patients have lungs that have very poor compliance (elasticity) and require high levels of PEEP and pressure to ventilate. I’m not seeing the compliance issues like that in these patients. I have my theory as to why, but I can’t prove it. The high levels of PEEP for the length of time that these patients are remaining on the vent (10+ days) will cause permanent lung damage in the survivors.
This make any sense to you:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200405...t-91182386efcb
I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?
That’s pretty much what I believe is happening. That’s a very good article, and it correlates with what I’m seeing in real life. People who have no problems breathing with decent looking chest X-rays that in 1 hour are having great difficulty breathing with ground glass appearing in bilateral lungs. In a typical viral pneumonia you would expect a decrease in lung compliance, but that doesn’t seem to be the case with most of them. You also wouldn’t see people who were fine one minute and two hours later be in severe distress, but more of a gradual downward trend. I believe it’s the iron that’s causing the problem in the lungs, which makes sense that hydroxychloroquine is working if used early enough. That would also explain these astronomically high ferritin levels we’re seeing in some that are critical.
1. Why is the author anonymous?
2. Why did Medium take down the article?
Should we not wait until they have 101.4 temp to test now that we have more testing capacity ? Or at least people with asthma or history of pneumonia ? I have felt we are letting the disease get to far along on the people that are most venerable. I would let their GP test them.
Found out more info on question 1, which also gives me a good guess on question 2.
For anyone that might be curious, the article appears to be penned by Andrew Gaiziunas (if you can believe what you read on the Internet/twitter) - a guy whose interest appears to be cryptocurrancies, but the substance seems to have been put together as a research paper of sorts with the help of his retired MD father.
Not that it particularly matters, but he at least feels like it has now been taken up in more “capable hands.”
You can find him on Twitter @agaiziunas
402k and 12.9k, 3,2% mortality based on reported cases.
Why so many Americans have lost their lives unnecessarily...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
And yet, based on the demographics of those who have actually, really died from C-19, it is NOT folks who would watch FOX. On the other hand EVERYONE I know and know of who do watch FOX have NOT "lost their lives" and only TWO who I think might (probably do) watch FOX got it and beat it. One was just very, very mild symptoms.
Meanwhile the Dems and their media cronies were encouraging people to ride the subways, go to your favorite restaurants, and Pelosi invited everyone to come visit Chinatown in SF. They also opposed the travel bans.
And another BTW, we still don't know the real numbers of who have actually died because of C-19. We know how many people have died with it, but not because of it, and will probably never know. Bottom line is so far C-19 has NOT been as lethal as past flu epidemics. And in truth probably will not be, in reality.
Assuming they died WITH the China Virus not FROM.
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