Most prescription drugs would not qualify as safe by your standard.Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Most prescription drugs would not qualify as safe by your standard.
Most prescription drugs are not "safe" and that's why they are prescription drugs...which is why the evaluation process is important.
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Those that put 10 percent of the people in a “danger zone” for serious cardiac complications wouldn’t be. Is that most prescription drugs?
Saying the opposite is just ignorance as well. If someone says it is safe for everyone I agree that is ignorance. It has known risks and unfortunately there is a large overlap of the conditions that put you at risk for COVID and at risk for complications from the drug. Proven is probably too strong a word for a legal discussion, but it has shown a lot of promise as an effective drug for this disease, particularly when combined with other things. There is still a lot of testing to be done and we will likely (hopefully) find much better drugs to combat the virus, but for now we are limited. That doesn't mean we should go full bore prescribing it to everyone, but until we have a better alternative it is our best bet. To imply otherwise is foolish.
There is a middle ground here like with anything. "Perfectly safe" and "Proven effective" are poor word choice and don't reflect reality. "Dangerous" and "unproven" are the other end of the spectrum. It is an established drug with known risks and side effects and has shown promise as a treatment. Doctors can prescribe it now and hopefully they are weighing the risks and prescribing it to those who might benefit.
Probably more than you realize.
Do you know how many prescription drugs are taken on a daily basis? This is an idiotic position. I'm sorry. I know you are just dug in and trying to defend a position but be realistic. Even OTC drugs are dangerous under the right conditions (or wrong conditions). We are not talking about handing them out like candy. No one has ever suggested that. To imply otherwise is ridiculous.
You guys are going to have to give me an example of something you consider safe? Any medicines or drugs you think qualify.
It feels like you’re responding to something I didn’t say.
Are you saying it’s idiotic to have a rigorous evaluation process from approved drug uses?
It's an opinion not a fact that there is a 10% danger zone. No doctor is going to prescribe this drug to a patient who has the cardiac issues that are described on the warning label.
Inexpensive is available. That bothers many more that the supposed and undocumented dangers of taking it.
The medical opinion of a well qualified doctor, which outweighs the opinion of POTUS (where the P doesn’t mean Pharmacologist).
Btw, the drug is now available for COVID, which is a non indicated use, but some patients with lupus and RA are struggling to get the drug that they use for their treatment.
More lies...Lupus and RA patients may not be able to run down to Walmart or Walgreens and pick it up for $2, but they can get it. It's not running short.
You have one "well qualified Doctor". I have several "well qualified Doctors". Trump did too, well before he made the statement.
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Nope I'm responding to exactly what you said. "Most prescription drugs are not safe and that's why they are prescription drugs."
Again no one has been saying these drugs should be handed out like candy. The President has not said everyone with Covid-19 should be on this drug. People have latched on to the word safe as if it is somehow misleading when talking about this drug. There are people taking it for RA for goodness sake. While RA can have complications itself that can lead to life threatening conditions we are talking about a disease that is killing people.
I guess they should be thankful they aren't having this unsafe drug shoved down their throats. Certainly it's going to be harder to find with more and more people using the drug. That is not unexpected. I suspect they are ramping up production. I'm not sure I believe that it's quite as hard to come by as the story makes it sound though. Hopefully everyone who needs it is able to get it and people aren't over-prescribing it.
They take smaller doses and don’t have contraindications, in general.
And no one here is recommending a dosage or giving it to people with contraindications.
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