Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition

[MoonPieBlue]

It is an international compilation. It is the comments on the combined therapy of HCQ + ZPac, which is the widely used therapy that is being tried, is more problematic because they BOTH contribute to QT lengthening, making the promoted therapy more risky than either drug alone.

And as pointed out in your quote -



Thus higher doses of HCQ, even without Zpac, can cause heart issues. Patients should be monitored on EKG and should be taken off the HCQ if QT lengthening is seen.

Yes, but the paper they cite makes no mention of it, at least what I've seen. I'm not arguing that there is the potential for someone to be effected by HCQ or HCQ + ZPAC, just as there is the potential for any drug (OTC or prescribed). That's what the doctor's for to judge the potential harm versus the benefit. In fact, I didn't make any statement but merely pulled what I thought were relevant parts of the report. Needless to say I didn't read the whole article verbatim. I also didn't read their methods extensively to see the criteria used for including or excluding a report/study, the most important part of such a review. Even they say "some research suggests". 'Suggests' is the important term, it's not INDICATES it suggests.

[FriscoDog]

https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...a-c4a5ffad3ffb

39 Nursing home residents successfully complete hydroxchloroquine treatment for Covid-19..


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Residents completed a five-day treatment of hydroxychloroquine and their doctor said none have experienced side effects.

What happened at a Galveston County nursing home over the last week was one of the first big tests of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 patients in Texas.

“I thought the risk of seeing 15% of that nursing home die was just not an acceptable,” said Dr. Robin Armstrong, MD, medical director at The Resort at Texas City.

Fifty-six residents at this senior facility in Galveston County contracted the novel coronavirus. Dr. Robin Armstrong said 39 of them gave him permission to treat them with hydroxychloroquine pills.

“Most of the patients have done well. And, you know, and I think that that is suggestive that the medication is helpful,” Armstrong told WFAA.

But notice that Armstrong qualified his answer by saying “most of the patients.”

“Well, I would say I would say all the patients have done well,” Armstrong added.

On Sunday, those 39 patients finished five days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Dr. Armstrong said no one experienced any side effects.

“We've got one patient now that kind of goes back and forth,” said Dr. Armstrong, “He's an older gentleman, but we're kind of nursing him through the process, but he's getting better.

Two patients receiving hydroxychloroquine have had to go to hospital for unrelated conditions, Armstrong disclosed; a woman had a fall and a man got dehydrated in his room because he was not eating and drinking.

But for the first time since this treatment began, many of those who have recovered from the virus have been able to go outside and get some fresh air over the last 48 hours, Armstrong said.

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[dawg80]

https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...a-c4a5ffad3ffb

39 Nursing home residents successfully complete hydroxchloroquine treatment for Covid-19..


quote:

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Residents completed a five-day treatment of hydroxychloroquine and their doctor said none have experienced side effects.

What happened at a Galveston County nursing home over the last week was one of the first big tests of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 patients in Texas.

“I thought the risk of seeing 15% of that nursing home die was just not an acceptable,” said Dr. Robin Armstrong, MD, medical director at The Resort at Texas City.

Fifty-six residents at this senior facility in Galveston County contracted the novel coronavirus. Dr. Robin Armstrong said 39 of them gave him permission to treat them with hydroxychloroquine pills.

“Most of the patients have done well. And, you know, and I think that that is suggestive that the medication is helpful,” Armstrong told WFAA.

But notice that Armstrong qualified his answer by saying “most of the patients.”

“Well, I would say I would say all the patients have done well,” Armstrong added.

On Sunday, those 39 patients finished five days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Dr. Armstrong said no one experienced any side effects.

“We've got one patient now that kind of goes back and forth,” said Dr. Armstrong, “He's an older gentleman, but we're kind of nursing him through the process, but he's getting better.

Two patients receiving hydroxychloroquine have had to go to hospital for unrelated conditions, Armstrong disclosed; a woman had a fall and a man got dehydrated in his room because he was not eating and drinking.

But for the first time since this treatment began, many of those who have recovered from the virus have been able to go outside and get some fresh air over the last 48 hours, Armstrong said.

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Ah, but, within 20+ years or so most of these folks will pass away and Goosey will be here blaming the drug and by extension, TRUMP! for it! Mark it down somewhere.

[dawg80]

April 14

21,518 cases 1,013 deaths positive testing rate at 18.2%
1,977 in hosp 436 on ventilators

Seeing some positive trends....

April 15

21,951 cases 1,103 deaths positive testing rate at 18.0%

1,943 in hosp 425 on ventilators

[dawg80]

April 15

21,951 cases 1,103 deaths positive testing rate at 18.0%

1,943 in hosp 425 on ventilators

April 16

22,532 cases 1,156 deaths positive testing rate at 17.8% (over 126,000 tested)

1,914 in hosp 396 on ventilators

I'd like to see the numbers on how many have beaten it. For instance in Natchitoches for the first time in 4 days, our count went up. It was sitting at 42 cases, and today is 45. Yet, I hear from medical professionals that 20 people have had it, beat it, and are now free of it. I guess as "free" as medical science can determine. But those 20 are still counted in the "Number of cases" count. It should be 25 today. Or at least, have a separate metric showing how many have beaten it.

BTW Natch's positive testing rate is 7.6%. About 1/3 of the overall state's rate.

[tech70]

I wonder how this is affecting diagnosis In hospitals with money problems and plenty of space and equipment ? Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a Covid-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that Covid-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much.

[CARTEK]

I wonder how this is affecting diagnosis In hospitals with money problems and plenty of space and equipment ? Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a Covid-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that Covid-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much.

$13K is the minimum...it can be as high as $100K.

$39K is the minimum...it can be as high as $300K.

It depends on the state and the city...it is MediCare/MediCaid driven.

[tech70]

Yes , saw in Nebraska it’s 300K .we are going to be so deep in debt taxes will skyrocket.

[techman05]

So, we got a C grade for our quarantine grade this far. They don’t know that most of the people who drive across town and into my neighborhood are doing just that, driving around. They never stop, they never speak to anyone. I waive at the same people on a weekly basis. Older folks who just want to go somewhere that brothers and sisters are playing in the yard. I know more than a few of the couples who come thru. No contact whatsoever.

[dawg80]

April 16

22,532 cases 1,156 deaths positive testing rate at 17.8% (over 126,000 tested)

1,914 in hosp 396 on ventilators

April 17

23,118 cases 1,213 deaths testing rate at 17.5%

1,868 in hosp 363 on ventilators

Additional information:

Every death has some "underlying condition(s)." The leading condition is hypertension at 60% followed by diabetes 38%, kidney disease 23%, obesity 22%, cardiac disease 21% and some others...that adds past 100% so obviously they are not assigning one condition to each C-19 death. But, there are no cases where a death has a 0% other condition. So I guess that means every C-19 death is attributable to some other cause plus the virus. No 100% perfectly healthy person has contracted the virus and then died.

[BullPupN'46]

Lincoln Parish Health Dept is reporting 47 cases of cov-19 with 2 deaths.

[dawg80]

April 17

23,118 cases 1,213 deaths testing rate at 17.5%

1,868 in hosp 363 on ventilators

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April 18

23,580 cases 1,267 deaths test rate at 17.1%

1,761 in hosp 347 on ventilators

[MoonPieBlue]

Lincoln Parish Health Dept is reporting 47 cases of cov-19 with 2 deaths.

I've read that the 2 deaths had been reported before 4/17 but for some reason they were never appearing on the site. So these aren't new deaths. Don't know anything else about them though.

[tech70]

Probably nursing home deaths as they are being obscured.

[dawg80]

I suppose wer'e gonna soon learn if social distancing has really had the effect some say. There are so many violations of it, and getting worse by the day. If there's an explosion in cases, well...

Right now the neighborhood party animals are all hugging on each other, drunk off their butts. You can always tell where they are gathered with all the golf carts parked at a house. I'm guessing at least 15-20 "adults" (use that term loosely) and another 6-8 kids all jammed under a carport, eating, drinking, sharing food from the same source, you know, a big bowl of potato chips, get spit on your hand, jam it back into the bowl...next!

Today down on the riverbank there were two gatherings, picnics, each with at least 12-15 folks.

At Stine's in their garden section, it was packed! No 6 foot distancing being observed at all. People bumping into each other while looking over the pretty flowers.

So, we shall see.