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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Oh! and again....obummer wrecked our military by basically defunding it. We all know that a large part of the national budget goes to the military, and YES! Trump has spent plenty rebuilding the military and has taxed the deficit and debt in doing so. The national debt is a problem that needs addressing, granted. But! obummer increased the debt more than ALL previous presidents combined. He inherited an $8 trillion debt and left it at $19 trillion after 8 years. He did not spend much on the military...so where did that $11 trillion go? Rebuilding infrastructure, roads and bridges? No, not really. Improving public education? Definitely not! So...where did it go? Buehler? Anyone?
    Defunding? Like Biden wants to do with police?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Who cares? Anybody with reasoning skills.

    Mattis may be one of the many unnamed Trump haters who, after two years, are saying they heard the comment(s). He has certainly proven his hate for Trump is greater than his love for his country. If he had a set, he'd put his name on it.

    The only Trump hater willing to put his name on this is Bolton. He says that Trump did not say it and he was there.
    That’s not what Bolton said. Bolton said he didn’t hear it.

    Reasoning skills? How’s this? Someone can have biased motives and still tell the truth. Mattis was hand picked and only broke his silence when Trump used the military to attack US citizens for exercise their rights.

    I guess you and Trump think Mattis is a sucker and a loser. It would certainly be in keeping with his character (or lack thereof).

    Keep on defending him!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Oh! and again....obummer wrecked our military by basically defunding it. We all know that a large part of the national budget goes to the military, and YES! Trump has spent plenty rebuilding the military and has taxed the deficit and debt in doing so. The national debt is a problem that needs addressing, granted. But! obummer increased the debt more than ALL previous presidents combined. He inherited an $8 trillion debt and left it at $19 trillion after 8 years. He did not spend much on the military...so where did that $11 trillion go? Rebuilding infrastructure, roads and bridges? No, not really. Improving public education? Definitely not! So...where did it go? Buehler? Anyone?
    Oh! also, during his tenure the US Treasury took in about $24 trillion over the 8 years. So, with the $11 trillion added in, where did obummer spend $35 trillion?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Mattis was hand picked and only broke his silence when Trump used the military to attack US citizens for exercise their rights.
    I see now...

    Mattis broke his silence about something that happened two years ago because of something the secret service did three months ago.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Do you remember 8 years of Obama destroying the military? You ignore the obvious things like Obama's hate for America along JBE's liberal leanings.
    Do you believe the 10th Mountain Division did not have ammunition? Just a yes or no.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by turbodawg View Post
    “When I took over our military, we did not have ammunition,” Trump said. “I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, ‘Sir, I’m sorry sir, we don’t have ammunition.’ I said, I will never let that happen to another president.”

    Who believes that to be true? He’s said it repeatedly.
    I do!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by turbodawg View Post
    Do you believe the 10th Mountain Division did not have ammunition? Just a yes or no.
    The 4/10 is HQed at Fort Polk. When ammo got low, guvnar JBE personally led a convoy to replenish their supply! Yes sir! JBE to the rescue again!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Oh! also, during his tenure the US Treasury took in about $24 trillion over the 8 years. So, with the $11 trillion added in, where did obummer spend $35 trillion?
    Any of you obummer supporters care to address this question? On what did the Kenyan spend $35 trillion?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I do!
    I don't have to "believe" it is true, I KNOW it is true. But, again...and this is probably over a few posters' heads...we're not talking about a 100% absence of ammo. The concerns were not enough ammo to support an operation for any extended period of time. The same was true with spare parts...which is why entire squadrons were grounded and not a single carrier could put to sea.

    If Biden is elected...er, steals the election...er, has the election stolen on his behalf (have to be very specific because certain libtards get confused if you don't explain exactly what you mean, they are incapable of understanding what is meant), then our military will again suffer a downward spiral into unpreparedness.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Any of you obummer supporters care to address this question? On what did the Kenyan spend $35 trillion?
    Not sure you will find Obama supporters here, but what shocks the conscience is that there are Trump supporters here. This guy stands against everything that Republicans once said was sacred.

    But a simple google search would answer your question.

    https://media4.manhattan-institute.o.../R-BR-0917.pdf

    Obama actually cut the structural deficit in half. The biggest addition to his budget was the extension of the Bush tax cuts.

    Another chunk of the budget growth came from 2 trillion in stimulus coming out of the 2009 economic crisis.

    https://media4.manhattan-institute.o.../R-BR-0917.pdf

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Not sure you will find Obama supporters here, but what shocks the conscience is that there are Trump supporters here. This guy stands against everything that Republicans once said was sacred.
    Okay, I'll play along...what did Repubs once hold sacred that Trump has gone 180 on?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Okay, I'll play along...what did Repubs once hold sacred that Trump has gone 180 on?
    Free markets, balanced budgets, military service, anti-corruption, rule of law, separation of powers.

    It is quickly becoming a party for racist populism and fascism.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Free markets, balanced budgets, military service, anti-corruption, rule of law, separation of powers.

    It is quickly becoming a party for racist populism and fascism.
    Free markets? Yep! which is why Trump wants fair and free trade deals with cheating countries.

    Balanced budgets? RINOs have not cared about that ever...but, yes, this is an issue, which I have stated many times before.

    Military service? Yep! which is why Trump has done so much for our Vets and those currently serving.

    Anti-corruption? Yep! which is why Trump has been fighting the severe corruption in The Swamp, not the least of which is rooted in the DOJ/FBI, as we've all seen.

    Rule of law? Yep! which is why Trump has offered help, even "threatened" help, to restore order in all those Dem cities/states. And! why Trump has adhered to the strictest interpretation of the law, unlike obummer who routinely disregarded it....such as selling automatic weapons to the Mexican drug cartels.

    Separation of power? Yep! which is why Trump has tried to work with Congress, unlike obummer who issued a record amount of EOs.

    The problem is The Swamp and those of you who are either willfully going along, or are too ignorant to understand any of it.

    Do you know the definition of fascism, or is it just a term you like to throw around because it sounds so bad? FYI...the correct definition is: a system of politics/government when there is only one political party and that party is led by a single, powerful leader. If anything it is the Dems pushing for a fascist system in the US. But, even that is not totally accurate, as I have not seen a movement of concentrating power in one individual. Rather the Left is ruled by a small group of power-hungry people. There are still multiple political parties in the US, two major ones, and many, many others. So...if you don't wish to sink even lower into the negative credibility area, you need to stop the silly talk about fascism.

    Populism? Heck! we had a whole thread on that a while back. After much discussion, research, more discussion, as I recall, we did not arrive at one acceptable definition of it, and did not see how it applied to the any current "movement" in the US. If you accept the "elitist" definition of it then yeah, one can make the case, by that definition, that Trump's political philosophy embraces the pure tenets of populism. And to that I say: GOOD FOR HIM! and a huge THANKS! Caring more for "the common man" over "elitists?" Count me in! That is very fabric of what makes America great! The notion that anyone can rise as far as their talent and effort takes them. I agree, there are parts of Trump's political philosophy that embraces aspects of populism, and thank God for it!!!

    Nationalism? Absolutely!!!!!!!! (even though you didn't include it in your post). America and Americans first!!!

    What else ya got?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Free markets? Yep! which is why Trump wants fair and free trade deals with cheating countries.

    Balanced budgets? RINOs have not cared about that ever...but, yes, this is an issue, which I have stated many times before.

    Military service? Yep! which is why Trump has done so much for our Vets and those currently serving.

    Anti-corruption? Yep! which is why Trump has been fighting the severe corruption in The Swamp, not the least of which is rooted in the DOJ/FBI, as we've all seen.

    Rule of law? Yep! which is why Trump has offered help, even "threatened" help, to restore order in all those Dem cities/states. And! why Trump has adhered to the strictest interpretation of the law, unlike obummer who routinely disregarded it....such as selling automatic weapons to the Mexican drug cartels.

    Separation of power? Yep! which is why Trump has tried to work with Congress, unlike obummer who issued a record amount of EOs.

    The problem is The Swamp and those of you who are either willfully going along, or are too ignorant to understand any of it.

    Do you know the definition of fascism, or is it just a term you like to throw around because it sounds so bad? FYI...the correct definition is: a system of politics/government when there is only one political party and that party is led by a single, powerful leader. If anything it is the Dems pushing for a fascist system in the US. But, even that is not totally accurate, as I have not seen a movement of concentrating power in one individual. Rather the Left is ruled by a small group of power-hungry people. There are still multiple political parties in the US, two major ones, and many, many others. So...if you don't wish to sink even lower into the negative credibility area, you need to stop the silly talk about fascism.

    Populism? Heck! we had a whole thread on that a while back. After much discussion, research, more discussion, as I recall, we did not arrive at one acceptable definition of it, and did not see how it applied to the any current "movement" in the US. If you accept the "elitist" definition of it then yeah, one can make the case, by that definition, that Trump's political philosophy embraces the pure tenets of populism. And to that I say: GOOD FOR HIM! and a huge THANKS! Caring more for "the common man" over "elitists?" Count me in! That is very fabric of what makes America great! The notion that anyone can rise as far as their talent and effort takes them. I agree, there are parts of Trump's political philosophy that embraces aspects of populism, and thank God for it!!!

    Nationalism? Absolutely!!!!!!!! (even though you didn't include it in your post). America and Americans first!!!

    What else ya got?
    Smoking.....great job!!!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Free markets? Yep! which is why Trump wants fair and free trade deals with cheating countries.

    Balanced budgets? RINOs have not cared about that ever...but, yes, this is an issue, which I have stated many times before.

    Military service? Yep! which is why Trump has done so much for our Vets and those currently serving.

    Anti-corruption? Yep! which is why Trump has been fighting the severe corruption in The Swamp, not the least of which is rooted in the DOJ/FBI, as we've all seen.

    Rule of law? Yep! which is why Trump has offered help, even "threatened" help, to restore order in all those Dem cities/states. And! why Trump has adhered to the strictest interpretation of the law, unlike obummer who routinely disregarded it....such as selling automatic weapons to the Mexican drug cartels.

    Separation of power? Yep! which is why Trump has tried to work with Congress, unlike obummer who issued a record amount of EOs.

    The problem is The Swamp and those of you who are either willfully going along, or are too ignorant to understand any of it.

    Do you know the definition of fascism, or is it just a term you like to throw around because it sounds so bad? FYI...the correct definition is: a system of politics/government when there is only one political party and that party is led by a single, powerful leader. If anything it is the Dems pushing for a fascist system in the US. But, even that is not totally accurate, as I have not seen a movement of concentrating power in one individual. Rather the Left is ruled by a small group of power-hungry people. There are still multiple political parties in the US, two major ones, and many, many others. So...if you don't wish to sink even lower into the negative credibility area, you need to stop the silly talk about fascism.

    Populism? Heck! we had a whole thread on that a while back. After much discussion, research, more discussion, as I recall, we did not arrive at one acceptable definition of it, and did not see how it applied to the any current "movement" in the US. If you accept the "elitist" definition of it then yeah, one can make the case, by that definition, that Trump's political philosophy embraces the pure tenets of populism. And to that I say: GOOD FOR HIM! and a huge THANKS! Caring more for "the common man" over "elitists?" Count me in! That is very fabric of what makes America great! The notion that anyone can rise as far as their talent and effort takes them. I agree, there are parts of Trump's political philosophy that embraces aspects of populism, and thank God for it!!!

    Nationalism? Absolutely!!!!!!!! (even though you didn't include it in your post). America and Americans first!!!

    What else ya got?
    Nailed it! I just don't understand why we would want a president that is not FOR America FIRST. Maybe we should let other countries vote in our elections if we intend to look out for their best interests before ours. I am sure many are going to do just that with this mail in fiasco we are about to have.

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