Democrat voter fraud is on!

[TYLERTECHSAS]

In case you haven’t noticed a theme, any time someone is offered by the Trump campaign as an expert that will prove fraud or shenanigans, we quickly learn that the allegations are based on simple quackery and don’t stand up to investigation.

You’ve been debunked.

[inudesu]

This doesn't apply to everyone posting here I don't guess, but it seems timely.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...tion-loss.html

[dawg80]

This doesn't apply to everyone posting here I don't guess, but it seems timely.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...tion-loss.html

Certainly dosen't apply to you and Goosey and lil johnny. For four years you all have posted lie after lie about President Trump, the Mueller Report, what a work of fiction! and so on. Oh, and have to throw in jubru too, another commie bastard liar.

And now we have this blatant theft of the 2020 POTUS election and you can add two Senate seats in Georgia too, and now you try to pretend you have some holier than thou position? What a piece of work you are!

[inudesu]

Certainly dosen't apply to you and Goosey and lil johnny. For four years you all have posted lie after lie about President Trump, the Mueller Report, what a work of fiction! and so on. Oh, and have to throw in jubru too, another commie bastard liar.

And now we have this blatant theft of the 2020 POTUS election and you can add two Senate seats in Georgia too, and now you try to pretend you have some holier than thou position? What a piece of work you are!

I haven't lied about Trump.

There was no theft of the 2020 election (or the 2021 special election). Trump lost the election. It looks like the 2 Senate seats in Georgia have been won by Democrats as well.

I would ask if we've reached the name-calling portion of the discussion, but I think you got there a long time ago (if you didn't start out there). I'm not going to bother with a crack about resorting to name-calling when you're out of good arguments, because, again, you kind of started there, and haven't had decent cogent points to argue at any point in this thread to begin with.

[inudesu]

This doesn't apply to everyone posting here I don't guess, but it seems timely.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...tion-loss.html

When the stakes are as high as they are in a presidential election, defeat can be particularly discouraging—and even scary. But that doesn’t justify abandoning principles of discernment and wisdom while embracing the sort of foolish teaching Paul condemns in 1 Timothy. Just because something is reassuring does not make it right.

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[FriscoDawg]

Debunking the debunkers.

As Congress certifies election, evidence of these voting irregularities looms large | Just The News

[dawg80]

Debunking the debunkers.

As Congress certifies election, evidence of these voting irregularities looms large | Just The News

Commie bastards stole the 2020 POTUS election. It's not even in dispute. It's a fact.

[DawgyNWindow]

Commie bastards stole the 2020 POTUS election. It's not even in dispute. It's a fact.

Well, I think the same thing, and even more so when the dems refuse to even look into the allegations after their senile leader takes the office. At the very least they should be concerned that 50% of the voters believe there was widespread fraud that put their guy over the top. This is the kind of stuff that topples nations. Having a real investigation to see if the fraud really existed (it HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET because the data has been destroyed or the teams trying to look at the data have been denied access) should be done, and if irregularities are found there should be remedies going forward to fix the issues.

We know the MSM will never do the leg work on this. They only repeat anti-Trump narratives and ignore any real chances to do actual investigative journalism.

That said, I wish Trump would stop throwing his allies under the bus. This time it's Pence. I DO NOT want a sitting VP to be able to negate a free election at a whim...ever. The way he threw Sessions under the bus still peeves me. Yes, Sessions was a poor appointment, but he was a good senator and a decent guy to boot. He did not deserve to be destroyed, either.

[Guisslapp]

Well, I think the same thing, and even more so when the dems refuse to even look into the allegations after their senile leader takes the office. At the very least they should be concerned that 50% of the voters believe there was widespread fraud that put their guy over the top. This is the kind of stuff that topples nations. Having a real investigation to see if the fraud really existed (it HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET because the data has been destroyed or the teams trying to look at the data have been denied access) should be done, and if irregularities are found there should be remedies going forward to fix the issues.

We know the MSM will never do the leg work on this. They only repeat anti-Trump narratives and ignore any real chances to do actual investigative journalism.

That said, I wish Trump would stop throwing his allies under the bus. This time it's Pence. I DO NOT want a sitting VP to be able to negate a free election at a whim...ever. The way he threw Sessions under the bus still peeves me. Yes, Sessions was a poor appointment, but he was a good senator and a decent guy to boot. He did not deserve to be destroyed, either.

Way less than 50 percent believe there was widespread fraud. It is Republicans that believe it, and not because it is true. But because Republicans and their propaganda outlets have been promoting debunked theories. Theories that have been rejected universally by Trump appointed judges and Republican election officials in the states in question. You guys really need to confront reality. You can’t live in your land of make-believe forever. This is what happens when conspiracy theories are normalized by the leader of your party to which many are loyal.

This proves what I have said all along about Trump and how he uniquely poses an existential threat to our country.

[DawgyNWindow]

Way less than 50 percent believe there was widespread fraud. It is Republicans that believe it, and not because it is true. But because Republicans and their propaganda outlets have been promoting debunked theories. Theories that have been rejected universally by Trump appointed judges and Republican election officials in the states in question. You guys really need to confront reality. You can’t live in your land of make-believe forever. This is what happens when conspiracy theories are normalized by the leader of your party to which many are loyal.

This proves what I have said all along about Trump and how he uniquely poses an existential threat to our country.

Not my party. Which party is yours?

Theories are made to be investigated. You know, like the theories that say black men are more likely to be shot by police (which is not true), or there was collusion with Russia, or there was a quid pro quo during a phone call. Hmmm, what about those "propaganda outlets"???? Not in your echo chamber, I suppose.

Debunked must be the CNN word of the week, along with "grift" or some derivative thereof. I know "propaganda outlets" was started by them. Do you feel smart being a mimic?

I am immediately suspicious when one side is telling the other to just sit down and shut up, or telling the other they do not want them to be a part of the process. If there is nothing there, investigate it and show the results.

[Guisslapp]

Not my party. Which party is yours?

Theories are made to be investigated. You know, like the theories that say black men are more likely to be shot by police (which is not true), or there was collusion with Russia, or there was a quid pro quo during a phone call. Hmmm, what about those "propaganda outlets"???? Not in your echo chamber, I suppose.

Debunked must be the CNN word of the week, along with "grift" or some derivative thereof. I know "propaganda outlets" was started by them. Do you feel smart being a mimic?

I am immediately suspicious when one side is telling the other to just sit down and shut up, or telling the other they do not want them to be a part of the process. If there is nothing there, investigate it and show the results.

The theories were investigated, and it was found that there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the first place. It has been settled many times over now in court and by election commissions. Repeating and repackaging the same debunked theories does not support the need for more investigation.

Republican cowardice has given too much oxygen to the fuel and ignition that Trump lit over these crazy conspiracy theories. That is what is destroying America. The only effort to steal the election is being led by Trump.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

The theories were investigated, and it was found that there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the first place. It has been settled many times over now in court and by election commissions. Repeating and repackaging the same debunked theories does not support the need for more investigation.

Now that is BS.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

When the stakes are as high as they are in a presidential election, defeat can be particularly discouraging—and even scary. But that doesn’t justify abandoning principles of discernment and wisdom while embracing the sort of foolish teaching Paul condemns in 1 Timothy. Just because something is reassuring does not make it right.

Paul condemned “old wives tails/fables” not new information or possibilities.

1 Timothy 4:7


“But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.”

https://m.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Timothy-4-7/


And what about the previous verses listed below? Sounds familiar to me on numerous issues and yes those including the killing of innocent babies and homosexuality/same sex marriage which the liberals promote and are in their party platform. Yes more latter times/days prophecies.

1 Timothy 4:1

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”

1 Timothy 4:2

“Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;”

[inudesu]

It's just possible to oppose ungodly laws like abortion AND cast aside false tales about election fraud.

This presupposes they are false. At this point I don't think that's something that you guys can have falsified. It literally doesn't matter what the courts say, or the people who always run the elections, or any news source that doesn't just repeat that Trump won, or the conservative bonifides of any sceptics. I think we could literally do a national roll call vote and put tally marks on a big ole hillside somewhere and Trump's supporters would not believe the results if he didn't win.

So, sure. I guess the whole article I linked to hinges on the earlier part when the author expresses his disbelief in the conspiracy.

If you think he's wrong on that point, none of the rest will matter.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

I think we could literally do a national roll call vote and put tally marks on a big ole hillside somewhere and Trump's supporters would not believe the results if he didn't win.

So, sure. I guess the whole article I linked to hinges on the earlier part when the author expresses his disbelief in the conspiracy.
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The “national roll call vote”, proposed by you above, would be the same for Bill Clinton or Obama as it would for Trump. That said, some of Trump’s speech to that group today did bother me.