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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Preface.....I’m not being argumentative with this question. Truly seeking to understand the legal process. Have no experience and don’t plan to.

    Dismissing on merit seems counterintuitive. Shouldn’t it be dismissed on lack of merit? In order to do that, shouldn’t the court have to hear all the testimony, read all the affidavits, watch all the video, and then determine that all of that is either false or insufficient? And the result is that all those offering false testimony are punished? If they haven’t even heard evidence, how can it be dismissed on merit?
    It's a kind of counter-intuitive phrase isn't it?

    The law is full of fun jargon like that.

    But it makes sense that it's just a short-hand for "the merits were considered but weren't sufficient." It's dismissed on merit because there wasn't enough "merit" to win the case (might be a way to explain it, but the explanation above is from an actual attorney so probably more precise).

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    PA Secretary of State resigning for not advertising a constitutional amendment as required so a referendum could be held. That referendum will now have to be delayed two years because the amendment has to be ratified again in the next two legislative sessions before it can be voted on by the people. That's how constitutional amendments have to be handled in Pennsylvania.

    Pa. Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar out after failure to advertise constitutional amendment - 6abc Philadelphia

    Guess she didn't get the memo that she couldn't do it just like the shenanigans that were pulled with PA Act 77 to allow blanket mail-in voting without being ratified by the voters as required to become part of the PA Constitution.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    No evidence of voter fraud.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No evidence of voter fraud.
    Unsupervised ballots being brought in at 3:30 AM that Dead Media alleges were food and camera equipment despite affidavits saying they were ballots would on the face be fraudulent.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Lol.

    “We will update our audience with our findings as soon as the video is reviewed.”

    You guys sure like to have your cranks yanked!

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No evidence of voter fraud.
    Not yet, right?

    They're going to review the film and get back to us!

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Lol.

    “We will update our audience with our findings as soon as the video is reviewed.”

    You guys sure like to have your cranks yanked!
    It’ll have to be yanked for another 4 years to catch up with you Gullible Goober.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    And now it's voter fraud in reverse. Funny how the arguments in this election lawsuit where Republican Claudia Tenney is the winner are almost exactly like the ones in the lawsuits still in play regarding the presidential election that have been poo-pooed so often by the left-wingnuts on this board.

    And the lead attorney for the Dimmwit is from the thoroughly corrupt law firm Perkins Coie.

    Democrat Lawyer Marc Elias Claims Faulty Voting Machines in New York Race (breitbart.com)

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    And now it's voter fraud in reverse. Funny how the arguments in this election lawsuit where Republican Claudia Tenney is the winner are almost exactly like the ones in the lawsuits still in play regarding the presidential election that have been poo-pooed so often by the left-wingnuts on this board.

    And the lead attorney for the Dimmwit is from the thoroughly corrupt law firm Perkins Coie.

    Democrat Lawyer Marc Elias Claims Faulty Voting Machines in New York Race (breitbart.com)
    If your contention is that the losers of this election have to do more to prove fraud than just claim it happened, you're exactly right.

    If election officials have declared the results were fair, I certainly would need to see some clear evidence otherwise to disagree with them.

    Maybe this wasn't for me, I don't consider myself a left-wing nut. But I don't know what arguments in this thread this story would stand against from anyone? If they go around making up stories about Hugo Chavez's ghost altering the machines, I think we've seen that they are inviting a lawsuit (which they'd deserve).

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    If your contention is that the losers of this election have to do more to prove fraud than just claim it happened, you're exactly right.

    If election officials have declared the results were fair, I certainly would need to see some clear evidence otherwise to disagree with them.

    Maybe this wasn't for me, I don't consider myself a left-wing nut. But I don't know what arguments in this thread this story would stand against from anyone? If they go around making up stories about Hugo Chavez's ghost altering the machines, I think we've seen that they are inviting a lawsuit (which they'd deserve).
    There may have been manipulation of voting machines in the 2020 presidential election. That may or may not be proven. The mathematical evidence is pretty damning, however.

    No such mathematical evidence has been revealed regarding New York's machines in this congressional election.

    But even without that, state "election officials" in multiple states violated the Constitution by conducting an "election" not in compliance with laws passed by their respective state legislatures as required. Results in those states should not have used to determine electors since the results from those electors were not "regularly given".

    In addition to that, there was plenty of conventional voter fraud and election fraud to go around in those same states and possibly many others.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    There may have been manipulation of voting machines in the 2020 presidential election. That may or may not be proven. The mathematical evidence is pretty damning, however.

    No such mathematical evidence has been revealed regarding New York's machines in this congressional election.

    Gotta prove it, in either case.

    But even without that, state "election officials" in multiple states violated the Constitution by conducting an "election" not in compliance with laws passed by their respective state legislatures as required. Results in those states should not have used to determine electors since the results from those electors were not "regularly given".

    We've been round and round on this. The legislature doesn't have to oversee every detail. The state legislatures set the overall manner, then the states appoint people to get things done in that "manner." So if the legislature chooses Candyland, the appointed election officials get to buy the game, set up the game, lay out the pieces. So long as the results are determined by Candyland, the manner was chosen.

    You don't have to go back to the state legislature for a special state constitutional change in order to buy another box of pencils. If the legislature says "popular vote" and you run out of pencils, you can just go buy more pencils. Mail in ballots are still a way to do a popular vote. Expanding the scope of something you were already doing in order to continue voting in the "manner" of popular vote is ok. It's allowed under the Constitution. This isn't my opinion, it's been ruled on by a federal judge and explained in very much the same way. If individual states broke their own rules about setting rules, that's for each state to determine (and they all certified their votes).

    And in any case, nobody has argued that all those new Republican Congressional members should lose their seats. It was the same vote, in the same "manner."


    In addition to that, there was plenty of conventional voter fraud and election fraud to go around in those same states and possibly many others.

    All that needs to be done now is to show the proof.
    I feel the same about this alleged voter fraud in NY as I do about the national election. Show the proof in court. Until that happens. . . I don't buy it.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    I feel the same about this alleged voter fraud in NY as I do about the national election. Show the proof in court. Until that happens. . . I don't buy it.
    Your logic won't allow you to think the mail in ballots were not largely legit right?

    Suddenly people who have NEVER voted turned out to mail in ballots for Biden. Yes, that's logical...

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Your logic won't allow you to think the mail in ballots were not largely legit right?

    Suddenly people who have NEVER voted turned out to mail in ballots for Biden. Yes, that's logical...
    We've been "mailing in" ballots since the Civil War in one way or another. We have voter registration rolls. We've been vetting this stuff for a long time. 2020 was merely a difference in degree. I'm sure that caused problems. Most likely resulted in some votes counting that shouldn't have here and there. Probably resulted in some votes not getting counted that should have here and there. Probably got Trump a few votes he might not have got otherwise. Certainly got Biden some votes he might not have got (but not because of any real unfairness, if anything it should have gone the other way given the age demographics of Republicans v Democrats, but Trump wasn't good on the messaging).

    So "not largely legit?" No, I think most of them were fine. Even if they went for a candidate I wouldn't have voted for myself.

    There were people who have never voted before who voted for Trump. There were people who never voted before who voted for Biden. It was a polarizing election. People were at home, with time to think about the election, and obsess about the election, and post on message boards about the election, and binge-scroll tweets about the election, and read explainers on how to vote by mail. It became a whole big story/political act in itself to vote by mail for some reason (well not for "some reason" because it was made into one).

    And yeah, they made it easier to do. So that's going to make a difference. Of course. But that isn't fraud. They would have checked those votes against the registrations (and probably the addresses, etc). Not voting before doesn't mean you aren't allowed to vote now.

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    Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Your logic won't allow you to think the mail in ballots were not largely legit right?

    Suddenly people who have NEVER voted turned out to mail in ballots for Biden. Yes, that's logical...
    Trump was the most divisive awful president ever. That is why people voted Biden.

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