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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    If you are dead set that this is constitutional and Trump deserves it, can we get you on record acknowledging that comments by Nancy, Chuck, Maxine, and Booker are as bad or worse and should receive equal treatment?
    Not remotely the same thing. They didn’t incite an insurrection. Trump did. This was the culmination of months of telling a big lie to convince people they had to take the matter into their own hands to save the country.

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    Re: President Trump

    You are so effed up.

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    Re: President Trump

    Same could be said of all those I mentioned. One thing they said was bad enough, but the collection of threats and calls for confrontation over the years of their “service” is egregious.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Same could be said of all those I mentioned. One thing they said was bad enough, but the collection of threats and calls for confrontation over the years of their “service” is egregious.
    Remember, Goosey has told us that inciting speech must first pass the litmus test before we determine if it is indeed inciting. If it’s a Republican, it’s hateful, and they should be stripped of all of their power immediately. If it’s a democrat, we need to look at the context of the speech.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Remember, Goosey has told us that inciting speech must first pass the litmus test before we determine if it is indeed inciting. If it’s a Republican, it’s hateful, and they should be stripped of all of their power immediately. If it’s a democrat, we need to look at the context of the speech.
    In context, all those I mentioned are every bit as bad as the collection of what Trump said. Context dooms them all.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    In context, all those I mentioned are every bit as bad as the collection of what Trump said. Context dooms them all.
    Yes, but they are liberal, so you’re taking it out of context. Liberals can’t be inciting. Ole Goosey is taking a page out of Alinsky’s playbook.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you understand the Pandora’s box you open by throwing a former president in jail for what they did in office? We aren’t Russia.

    You better believe that Trump would cite the impeachment clause to prove that he can’t be charged further than removal and disqualification.
    Pandora's box needs to be opened. Any POTUS that breaks the law while POTUS needs to be put on trial.

    And, I'm not entirely sure I agree with DoJ that a sitting POTUS should be immune from prosecution. Though, I do think the barrier for evidence and charges needs to be much higher. Of course, it really comes down to acting in good faith (all around), and I'm not sure there are many of us around anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    In context, all those I mentioned are every bit as bad as the collection of what Trump said. Context dooms them all.
    Y'all have ignored context for a long time.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Y'all have ignored context for a long time.
    Not hardly as we’ve posted the Democrat Double Standards on these various issues weekly if not daily.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Yes, but they are liberal, so you’re taking it out of context. Liberals can’t be inciting. Ole Goosey is taking a page out of Alinsky’s playbook.
    Nor can the socialist Dems. be racist or intolerant or anything but “for the people” by definition. 🤪
    Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Pandora's box needs to be opened. Any POTUS that breaks the law while POTUS needs to be put on trial.

    And, I'm not entirely sure I agree with DoJ that a sitting POTUS should be immune from prosecution. Though, I do think the barrier for evidence and charges needs to be much higher. Of course, it really comes down to acting in good faith (all around), and I'm not sure there are many of us around anymore.

    Y'all have ignored context for a long time.
    LOL! narcissist alert. And, pathetically ridiculous. Just wear your hammer & sickle patch proudly, comrade.

    Amazing how absolutely silent you were when obummer sold machineguns to drug cartels...that's not a crime? "Any POTUS that [who] breaks the law..." you say. But what you really mean is any non-commie bastard POTUS should be held accountable. Obummer, Biden, Clinton...all of whom committed much worse crimes than Trump even dreamed of, get a free pass, eh.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Settled. It is Constitutional to impeach and try Trump again.
    The final vote will be almost exactly the same as the "Constitutional" vote.

    As you could see with the first attorney in particular yesterday (for Trump) it literally doesn't matter what either side says. On the left, right or wrong, they've decided. On the right, the ones who feel really strongly and are willing to take the fallout have probably decided, but I guess some could waiver. The hard core Trump allies don't care what's said because they've made up their minds. I think the vote would be closer if it was a secret ballot like the Cheney thing, but it won't be so the rest of the Republicans just need a fig leaf. They need just enough (like the "is it Constitutional" question or the details of the accusation to cover themselves to vote for Trump). That's why so many were mad at the lawyer. They just want some tiny scrap to cling to to justify their votes.

    And they've got it.

    So the final vote will look just like yesterday's. The presenting teams are really just going on the record for history at this point. Politically, this might really backfire on the Democrats (and while I think some believe in the process and that it's the right or necessary thing to do, others are certainly thinking more politically here). Trump will almost certainly "win" in the sense that he won't be barred from office. So he gets to go back to being a winner, gets another "look at the swamp picking on me" talking point.

    Politics sucks.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    Trump will almost certainly "win" in the sense that he won't be barred from office. So he gets to go back to being a winner, gets another "look at the swamp picking on me" talking point.
    Which is exactly what this is. No indignation from the left when it really mattered. Remember the "summer of love".

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    LOL! narcissist alert. And, pathetically ridiculous. Just wear your hammer & sickle patch proudly, comrade.

    Amazing how absolutely silent you were when obummer sold machineguns to drug cartels...that's not a crime? "Any POTUS that [who] breaks the law..." you say. But what you really mean is any non-commie bastard POTUS should be held accountable. Obummer, Biden, Clinton...all of whom committed much worse crimes than Trump even dreamed of, get a free pass, eh.
    I forgive you.

    I wasn't silent.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Which is exactly what this is. No indignation from the left when it really mattered. Remember the "summer of love".
    Did they call for a summer of love? I remember them wanting a day of rage (again).

    You guys got lucky with the real stuff. We just get crappy imitations.

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    Re: President Trump

    Gawd! the dems are shameless...have to hand it to 'em. But then dems have always been shameless. They have a singular focus: the complete destruction of America. Double standards, hypocrisy? Not even close. To watch some demo bimbo lamenting that the "mob" was trying to destroy the Capitol building, a building devoted to the legacy of the Founding Fathers...oh, boo hoo. You libs HATE the Founding Fathers and want to cancel them from history and tear up their document, the Constitution. So, spare me your fake concern over their legacy.

    Next, all this fake concern over Mike Pence. Gimme a break! You dems would have happily tossed Pence to the "mob" if you thought you could have gotten away with it.

    So, I call BS on all your contrived concerns about Pence, the FF, the Constitution, and for America.

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