Covid - 19

[DawgyNWindow]

Which “unapproved” vaccine?

What you are hearing is wrong and goofy. Figures with all the fake news you follow.

It was ABC news on the radio. Yep, probably fake news.

It was approved for "emergency" use only by the FDA. I know. I had to sign a statement saying so. It is NOT a typical vaccine.

What a clown!

[Guisslapp]

Even if….EVEN IF…according to some crackpot study that 1/5 new infections were vaccinated, that means your odds of getting infection are much higher without the vaccine.

And then there is the data around hospitalizations and deaths. Those that are still dying today are largely those that did not get a vaccine.

[DawgyNWindow]

Even if….EVEN IF…according to some crackpot study that 1/5 new infections were vaccinated, that means your odds of getting infection are much higher without the vaccine.

And then there is the data around hospitalizations and deaths. Those that are still dying today are largely those that did not get a vaccine.

None of which addresses the insistence that people that have had covid receive the vaccine. Remember, that was my point.

But I'm glad to know that HPV is a variant of covid. Who knew (except you, of course)?

Kinda silly to vaccinate children in elementary school, too.

[Guisslapp]

None of which addresses the insistence that people that have had covid receive the vaccine. Remember, that was my point.

But I'm glad to know that HPV is a variant of covid. Who knew (except you, of course)?

Kinda silly to vaccinate children in elementary school, too.

The point is that natural immunity isn’t necessarily better than a vaccine. So far, with incomplete data, mRNA vaccines look like they give better immunity for this particular coronavirus than natural immunity. We will see.

To claim, ex cathedra, that natural immunity is superior is just ignorant AF.

[techman05]

Have a close friend who has the virus. She was vaccinated. Got it from a friend who was vaccinated. So far, they have not felt too bad. Maybe it’s the vaccine or maybe their immune systems are strong. Either way, still don’t know which is better. Get sick and have lingering effects or get the vaccine and suffer side effects which may persist.

[Dwayne From Minden]

I was listening to the radio yesterday and the news guy said that 1 out of 5 new cases of Covid are happening to vaccinated people. I am not hearing any evidence that people that actually had Covid are being reinfected, yet I am still hearing the call by the CDC and others that you should be vaccinated even if you have already had the disease.

It is no wonder there is no trust in this process.

Personally, I took the J&J shot and wish I had not done so.

My physician - who also happens to be a good friend and the parish coroner went on public record this morning that in the Parish there has been exactly 2 cases (as in TWO) in the parish of vaccinated people getting the virus after receiving the vaccination (mainly moderna & phifzer since I don't believe any J&J shots were available here) - TWO with both cases have mild symptoms and not requiring hospitalization

However, the Parish is almost batting a 1000 for the new cases being in the unvaccinated population (there have been a few two timers but in all cases the first time they had little to no symptoms so NO immunity was built up

It's an individual's choice if they want to get the shots or not - but from my perspective as a parish administrator and my wife being a primary care provider - it overwhelming works...

[Guisslapp]

Have a close friend who has the virus. She was vaccinated. Got it from a friend who was vaccinated. So far, they have not felt too bad. Maybe it’s the vaccine or maybe their immune systems are strong. Either way, still don’t know which is better. Get sick and have lingering effects or get the vaccine and suffer side effects which may persist.

Have two relatives that still can’t eat steak, peanut butter or garlic 6 months after having COVID. Turkey burgers for life? The risk of lingering loss of taste alone would make me get the vaccine.

[Guisslapp]

Also have a close friend that had long haul symptoms of lethargy and brain fog (several months after recovering the COVID lung issues), which made it nearly impossible to work. After the vaccine, he got his energy and clarity back.

[DawgyNWindow]

My physician - who also happens to be a good friend and the parish coroner went on public record this morning that in the Parish there has been exactly 2 cases (as in TWO) in the parish of vaccinated people getting the virus after receiving the vaccination (mainly moderna & phifzer since I don't believe any J&J shots were available here) - TWO with both cases have mild symptoms and not requiring hospitalization

However, the Parish is almost batting a 1000 for the new cases being in the unvaccinated population (there have been a few two timers but in all cases the first time they had little to no symptoms so NO immunity was built up

It's an individual's choice if they want to get the shots or not - but from my perspective as a parish administrator and my wife being a primary care provider - it overwhelming works...

I am not arguing against getting the shot. I am arguing that if you've had the virus there is no real need to do so.

They may have been referring to Tennessee with those statistics, I don't know.

Personally I would prefer to have the immunity that came with having the virus and not that given me by the vaccine.

[DawgyNWindow]

just ignorant AF.

You, in a nutshell.

[Guisslapp]

I am not arguing against getting the shot. I am arguing that if you've had the virus there is no real need to do so.

They may have been referring to Tennessee with those statistics, I don't know.

Personally I would prefer to have the immunity that came with having the virus and not that given me by the vaccine.

More likely you misheard or misunderstood what they said.

Your personal preference is out of step with what the evidence appears to be showing.

[DawgyNWindow]

Also have a close friend that had long haul symptoms of lethargy and brain fog (several months after recovering the COVID lung issues), which made it nearly impossible to work. After the vaccine, he got his energy and clarity back.

I have a close friend that had the flu and then ate a ham sandwich and felt better in short order.

Science!

[Guisslapp]

I have a close friend that had the flu and then ate a ham sandwich and felt better in short order.

Science!

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/vaccines-long-covid

Science is the reason he went to get it. Hoping it would solve his long haulers. It went away. One anecdote consistent with what some studies were showing.

[PawDawg]

I am not arguing against getting the shot. I am arguing that if you've had the virus there is no real need to do so.

They may have been referring to Tennessee with those statistics, I don't know.

Personally I would prefer to have the immunity that came with having the virus and not that given me by the vaccine.

Our 22 year old Tech student had the virus after being quarantined 3 times due to the idiotic tracing they were doing. He decided to take the shots after having a pretty bad case of the virus. He did it without talking to us which at 22, he is free to do. We would have told him not to. His reasoning was that the shots eliminated the BS he'd have to go through over the next several months with things getting back to normal. He figured it would eliminate most of the controlling BS academia and the government love to do, which was the main reason my wife and I took the shots as well. She is a teacher and I have an elderly parent in a nursing home.

[Guisslapp]

The delta variant currently has put 7 kids in Mississippi in ICU…