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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Questions like this are cut & dry...either they did or did not.

    We do know that the NIH provided funding to Dr. Shi while at UNC at least, and perhaps while she was in Canada too. We also know that someone in the obummer administration grew alarmed enough to cut off funding and support. and that UNC suspended said research on viruses. But, that Shi was allowed to leave the US for China (Wuhan) and take samples and notes with her. Yet! we are asked to accept that there is NO POSSIBILITY the Chicoms supported said research at Wuhan, and as a result of that either accidently or on purpose some dangerous virus escaped the Wuhan Lab. Sounds not only possible, but very plausible too. Especially given that sources in Australia and Japan were screaming "look out" early on.
    Well, if you look at it that way, any money the US has ever given China indirectly supported any gain of function research that they did, given that all money is fungible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Well, if you look at it that way, any money the US has ever given China indirectly supported any gain of function research that they did, given that all money is fungible.
    While we're on the subject, what are democrats afraid of?

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spence...-bill-n2592839

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    While we're on the subject, what are democrats afraid of?

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spence...-bill-n2592839
    Why did Republicans block hearings on the insurrection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Why did Republicans block hearings on the insurrection?
    Well, we weren't talking about that so why are you changing the subject?

    But, there wasn't an insurrection any more than there was a summer of love. But you know that don't you?

    Btw, how many Haitian immigrants are you signed up for? You voted for it so I'm sure you're going to be welcoming them to your house, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Well, we weren't talking about that so why are you changing the subject?

    But, there wasn't an insurrection any more than there was a summer of love. But you know that don't you?

    Btw, how many Haitian immigrants are you signed up for? You voted for it so I'm sure you're going to be welcoming them to your house, right?
    How did the Senate Democrats vote on the declassification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Well, if you look at it that way, any money the US has ever given China indirectly supported any gain of function research that they did, given that all money is fungible.
    Well...that's a push. Now, if NIH provided funding to the Wuhan Lab, even if it wasn't specifically earmarked for something, it is easy to accept that the Chicoms funneled the money toward gain of function research. Much more plausible then say US foreign aid to China for flood control on a northern river being diverted to Wuhan Lab.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/25/fauci-...n-of-function/


    The National Institutes of Health earmarked $600,000 for the Wuhan Institute of Virology over a five-year period to study whether bat coronaviruses could be transmitted to humans, White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci told lawmakers Tuesday.
    Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), told a House Appropriations subcommittee that the money was funneled to the Chinese lab through the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance to fund “a modest collaboration with very respectable Chinese scientists who were world experts on coronavirus.”


    Fauci has also admitted that he did not know what all the Wuhan lab was doing. He said this before Congress.. I think he knows, but he has to claim ignorance so he doesn't go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    https://nypost.com/2021/05/25/fauci-...n-of-function/


    The National Institutes of Health earmarked $600,000 for the Wuhan Institute of Virology over a five-year period to study whether bat coronaviruses could be transmitted to humans, White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci told lawmakers Tuesday.
    Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), told a House Appropriations subcommittee that the money was funneled to the Chinese lab through the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance to fund “a modest collaboration with very respectable Chinese scientists who were world experts on coronavirus.”


    Fauci has also admitted that he did not know what all the Wuhan lab was doing. He said this before Congress.. I think he knows, but he has to claim ignorance so he doesn't go to jail.
    The funding didn’t support gain of function research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    The funding didn’t support gain of function research.
    And you were there in Wuhan the whole time, of course, and know no NIH funds were used for nefarious research....right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    And you were there in Wuhan the whole time, of course, and know no NIH funds were used for nefarious research....right?
    No one says it did.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Everyone except for those in Know-Nothing Land, knows by this point that the Federal government placed a Moratorium on “Gain of Function” Research, which was later lifted under the Trump administration.

    The NIH funding was reviewed and determined to be outside the scope of the moratorium.

    These facts are incontrovertible.

    The folks that want to call it “gain of function” are referring to the most generic use of the term possible and not the use of the term as was prohibited.

    More on the moratorium:

    research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route. The research funding pause would not apply to characterization or testing of naturally occurring influenza, MERS, and SARS viruses, unless the tests are reasonably anticipated to increase transmissibility and/or pathogenicity.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4271556/

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    You cannot possibly be this stupid. No way! "Know-Nothing" Land? You must be the king of such a place.

    A moratorium? A moratorium? Gimmee a break! Try this! "Ah, we provided funding for a bunch of drug dealers to buy from the Mexican drug cartels, but we have a MORATORIUM on them reselling those drugs on the streets, so no need to worry."

    President Xi recently threatened Australia with a biological weapons attack. Hello! He also threatened to nuke Japan, which is an obvious reference to their already suffering such an attack. But he did not threaten Australia with nukes, but rather biological weapons. Hmmm... and this is the nature of the commie bastards, YOU commie bastards! so please spare me the stupid "oh, there's a moratorium..." LOL! You actually think those commie bastards give a damn about some moratorium!? Really?

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    You cannot possibly be this stupid. No way! "Know-Nothing" Land? You must be the king of such a place.

    A moratorium? A moratorium? Gimmee a break! Try this! "Ah, we provided funding for a bunch of drug dealers to buy from the Mexican drug cartels, but we have a MORATORIUM on them reselling those drugs on the streets, so no need to worry."

    President Xi recently threatened Australia with a biological weapons attack. Hello! He also threatened to nuke Japan, which is an obvious reference to their already suffering such an attack. But he did not threaten Australia with nukes, but rather biological weapons. Hmmm... and this is the nature of the commie bastards, YOU commie bastards! so please spare me the stupid "oh, there's a moratorium..." LOL! You actually think those commie bastards give a damn about some moratorium!? Really?
    Again it is incontrovertible that the work that was funded with this grant was outside the scope of the moratorium against gain of function research.

    And as a student of history you should know about the Know Nothings, and the obvious parallels to Trumpism. It is also a double entendre since Trumpists are anti-science and anti-learning.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    I noticed the interim head of LSU Oschner (Shreveport) confirmed this morning what our local coroner and chief of staff at the med center here in Claiborne was saying last week -

    97% of all new confirmed cases are in the unvaccinated population
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