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No it isn’t all a guess. The vaccine data is good. At least for the period of time studied. The durability (and therefore need for a booster) was always a question.Originally Posted by techman05
The only gold standard HCQ study showed it had no effect. The ivermectin paper was withdrawn. It hasn’t been part of a properly controlled study.
The Regeneron treatment is good if you catch the COVID early. If I were high risk, this is what I would ask for.
We don’t. I do know that the unvaccinated have an overwhelming lead in hospitalization vs those that are not. That’s a fact. But you’re right, Covid is still a huge mystery even a year and a half later. Most of the ones that are really sick get something like DIC where their blood is super hyper coagulated. I don’t know why that is, but I’ve seen it over and over. They can also develop a sort of cytokine storm and go from stable to super unstable very quickly. We have learned a lot in how to treat them, but it’s mostly supportive treatment. Regeneron looks promising, but who knows if it’s really working or if that patient was going to get better anyway.
Regeneron seems promising, but it’s still too early to tell. HCQ also increases the risk of cardiac events, and most studies I’ve read state that it does more harm than good.
It is what they used to treat POTUS too.
Another leftists lie that misrepresents the statistics. Yes, record numbers of children with china virus because very few were admitted earlier (in 2020) Key words are "record numbers" that could be from 6 to 12 or 300 to 325 or 5000 to 5001.
This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.
It's not deflection just because you don't want to hear it. How about not losing a month in response time all the while hoping it would disappear? How about not undercutting his official policies in his public appearances? How about not modeling the behavior that would've slowed the spread?
But, the absolute worst thing he did was give air and life to the conspiracy theorists that are still plaguing our response. Hell, we have guys on this board who won't take the vaccine, but are looking into de-wormers from Tractor Supply!
Good grief.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
I think we are forgetting how this became political in the first place. This is another dim catastrophe in the making. The pandemic was THE thing they used as a political football, even going as far as some states attempting to destroy their own economy just to hurt the President.
When the vaccine was announced, many dims said they refused to take it because Trump was behind it. Certainly you heard Kamala Harris say exactly that. The dims made it a political issue and not one of public health.
If you're 60+ (or even 50+), the TRUMP vaccine is probably a good thing to get. Remember that the dims would have been completely incapable of pulling off what Trump did, and we'd still be waiting or taking the Chinese vaccines today had the senile one been president.
Oh, and Guisslapp is a buzzword-of-the-day repeating, brainless moron that follows other morons, so don't let your opinion of him guide your actions. He is for amusement purposes only.
Mixed (POLITICAL) messaging has also been an issue.
Obama holds his party, dems fly on a plane unmasked, dems fly to Florida after telling constituents to not go there, dems getting hair done in a salon unmasked after saying all salons must close, rioters and looters run amok in the streets, shoulder to shoulder, and not much of a peep from the dem-supporting media. They continue to ignore the border as probably the biggest superspreader event since the start of the pandemic (they are even shipping all these variants of COVID to all 50 states).
But, let there be a gathering of conservatives or anyone deemed an enemy by the dim party and suddenly it becomes the worst thing ever, likely to cause the spread of disease far and wide killing everyone.
And as far as Biden is concerned, he has done NOTHING about COVID. IF he were competent, and any kind of a leader, his first job should have been to expedite the approval of the vaccine (other than for emergency use, which is keeping a lot of folks from taking it). He should have pushed the FDA to do so, but instead he has been busy spreading COVID coming over the border and making POLITICAL statements about vaccines and governors of red states and losing his train of thought. He has dropped the ball big time. Certainly even our fanboys of the senile idiot can see that!
You are deeply confused. The FDA emergency approval removed any actual obstacle for people to get the vaccine. The only people not getting it are people who are irresponsible and make bad choices. Full approval requires the collection of much more data and it makes no sense to change the full approval process - that is how you undermine public confidence in the FDA.
So, we trust a vaccine before it has gone through the proper channels for approval which have been the standard for how long? But we aren’t supposed to trust data collected on alternate treatments because the information was released before it went through the proper channels for approval?
I think we just time warped into the double standard thread.
An emergency authorization isn’t a small hurdle. The alternative was to wait 2 years for approval and then the whole vaccine would not have been in time for the vast majority of people.
It is irresponsible and poor judgment not to get the vaccine. It isn’t a close call when it comes to the risks associated with the vaccine versus not getting it. Those that believe otherwise are consuming way too much radical tight news.
FDA...
The same corrupt bureaucrats who give us the food pyramid.
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