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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Who’s the last one who was like that? Can’t recall one in my lifetime. What’s the quote about getting the government you deserve?
    Aw, come on man!

    You have to be so proud of your vote. Sucker.

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Aw, come on man!

    You have to be so proud of your vote. Sucker.
    Johnny is the only one pure enough to vote in any election. Can't you see that?

    YOU are getting the government YOU deserve. He actually helped give it to YOU, once he figured out what YOU deserved.

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Who’s the last one who was like that? Can’t recall one in my lifetime. What’s the quote about getting the government you deserve?
    that's why i'm asking "just once"...
    it does seem like they're getting much less subtle about it, though. george w at least got congress and the supreme court to agree with him first.

    it's amazing what you can get away with when powerful information gatekeepers are blocking for you.

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    Re: President Biden

    Seems to me that this is a good time to broker a permanent base housing an occupation army in Afghanistan. The leaders there have to see the writing on the wall at this point, and are rapidly discovering that freedom is not just bestowed upon you because you want it. I bet they'd at least consider it.

    Just move all the folks from Germany over there and build a great big, heavily-fortified base with an awesome airfield. Germany, along with the rest of the Europeans, should be able to handle Russia by themselves, given they have economies that eclipse the Russian one. Heck, maybe they'll stop enriching them when they realize the money is being used to fund an army and weaponry to potentially invade them.

    If we only had a president that was able to think out of the box...or think at all.

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    Re: President Biden

    I disagree. Get us the hell out of Afghanistan and never, and I mean NEVER, go back! History is ripe with mighty empires failing there. We are just the latest. I do feel for the innocent, good folks there who just want a decent life, especially women (and little girls) who will soon be victimized by the "peaceful" religion of Islamic extremism. But, that place is a cesspool, the low spot on Earth where all bad stuff drains to. There is no hope for it and no reason for us to continue to expend blood and treasure in a lost cause.

    The world should delete the word "Afghanistan" from its collective language and erase it from maps and globes! In the future school kids will ask, what is that blank spot on world maps? And be told, you don't want to know.

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    I disagree. Get us the hell out of Afghanistan and never, and I mean NEVER, go back! History is ripe with mighty empires failing there. We are just the latest. I do feel for the innocent, good folks there who just want a decent life, especially women (and little girls) who will soon be victimized by the "peaceful" religion of Islamic extremism. But, that place is a cesspool, the low spot on Earth where all bad stuff drains to. There is no hope for it and no reason for us to continue to expend blood and treasure in a lost cause.

    The world should delete the word "Afghanistan" from its collective language and erase it from maps and globes! In the future school kids will ask, what is that blank spot on world maps? And be told, you don't want to know.
    I am all for going home from our "limited engagement" there (get us out of Syria, too). We should never have gone into Iraq either without a long term plan to occupy them after militarily defeating them. Stuff just reverts back to where it was, or worse, when we leave.

    If we send in the military, we should go all the way and occupy wherever we land when the dust has settled. There's no such thing as a "limited" war for those doing the fighting. Every time we do this kind of stuff, we either just postpone the inevitable or make things worse.

    The political landscape of the US is set up so that continuity of policy lasts for about 4 or 8 years max, but the scars on the participants lasts a lifetime.

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    Re: President Biden

    Just another thought.

    Given that we are leaving Afghanistan, will this mean we are FINALLY going to close the Guantanamo prison? If the "war" is over, you cannot really continue to define these folks as prisoners of war, right?

    I actually despise the fact that our government has held these folks in this way for so long. If they are guilty of crimes, they need to be tried (military tribunal is sufficient) and disposed of accordingly. They cannot be held as enemy combatants any more because there is no combat.

    I just don't like our government holding people indefinitely without charging them with anything. Charge them and kill them or let them go.

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    Re: President Biden

    In some places, in a given time in history, US military occupation made sense/makes sense. Such as our involvement in Japan and Germany post WWII and in South Korea. But, any history student can tell you Afghanistan is not the place for such occupation.

    I can dig out the article for more details, but I read an accounting of the British attempt to "subdue" Afghanistan back in the 1870's. About 20,000 crack British troops invaded Afghanistan, captured Kabul fairly easily, and then entered into an alliance with "friendly" Afghan tribes to stand against an army of unfriendly tribes. About 60,000 Afghan warriors joined the Brits as they marched north to engage the enemy, an army numbering over 100,000.

    The night before the battle, emissaries of the enemy tribes bribed and coerced the friendlies to switch sides. The next day the British army of a mere 20,000 faced one of 160,000 which had them flanked and partially surrounded. A Brit rear guard of 8,000 men made a bold and heroic stand in what is one of the most incredible such last stands in military history.

    "Only the dog survived...and even he was seriously wounded." One of the Brit regiments, numbering 800 soldiers, had a dog as a mascot. After a day of brutal combat against over-whelming odds, and after inflicting an estimated 35,000 casualties on the attacking Afghans, the Brit rear guard gave way. Every officer and man of that regiment was killed in action. A 100% casualty rate. The dog was slashed by a Afghan soldier with a sword and left to die. Only he survived and was later found walking slowly on the road to Kabul by British cavalry sent to assist the remnants of the retreating rear guard. Fewer than 1,500 of the 8,000 survived, and every one of them had been wounded. The dog became a national hero once back in England, a symbol of that gallant stand by that regiment vs. impossible odds.

    The British general in command of the Afghan expedition reported to his superiors that he was pulling all his men out of that "God-forsaken country" retiring back to their bases in India. And that no nation, no matter how powerful it may be, will ever be able to subdue Afghanistan. Why won't the world listen to these sage words?

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    In some places, in a given time in history, US military occupation made sense/makes sense. Such as our involvement in Japan and Germany post WWII and in South Korea. But, any history student can tell you Afghanistan is not the place for such occupation.

    I can dig out the article for more details, but I read an accounting of the British attempt to "subdue" Afghanistan back in the 1870's. About 20,000 crack British troops invaded Afghanistan, captured Kabul fairly easily, and then entered into an alliance with "friendly" Afghan tribes to stand against an army of unfriendly tribes. About 60,000 Afghan warriors joined the Brits as they marched north to engage the enemy, an army numbering over 100,000.

    The night before the battle, emissaries of the enemy tribes bribed and coerced the friendlies to switch sides. The next day the British army of a mere 20,000 faced one of 160,000 which had them flanked and partially surrounded. A Brit rear guard of 8,000 men made a bold and heroic stand in what is one of the most incredible such last stands in military history.

    "Only the dog survived...and even he was seriously wounded." One of the Brit regiments, numbering 800 soldiers, had a dog as a mascot. After a day of brutal combat against over-whelming odds, and after inflicting an estimated 35,000 casualties on the attacking Afghans, the Brit rear guard gave way. Every officer and man of that regiment was killed in action. A 100% casualty rate. The dog was slashed by a Afghan soldier with a sword and left to die. Only he survived and was later found walking slowly on the road to Kabul by British cavalry sent to assist the remnants of the retreating rear guard. Fewer than 1,500 of the 8,000 survived, and every one of them had been wounded. The dog became a national hero once back in England, a symbol of that gallant stand by that regiment vs. impossible odds.

    The British general in command of the Afghan expedition reported to his superiors that he was pulling all his men out of that "God-forsaken country" retiring back to their bases in India. And that no nation, no matter how powerful it may be, will ever be able to subdue Afghanistan. Why won't the world listen to these sage words?
    Just to be clear....I'm in the "never should have gone at all" crowd.

    I will be glad when they take away the executive power to commit troops without an act of war declared by Congress.

    I hope the dog bit the guy that slashed him.

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Just to be clear....I'm in the "never should have gone at all" crowd.

    I will be glad when they take away the executive power to commit troops without an act of war declared by Congress.

    I hope the dog bit the guy that slashed him.
    As Commander-in-Chief the POTUS has to retain a certain, limited authority to commit troops in urgent/emergency situations. But, yeah, anything other than an immediate need should require Congressional approval.

    As for the dog, there is no report of his biting the scumbag who slashed him. The witness to it was an Afghan soldier who wanted to ally with the Brits but when his tribal leaders switched sides, he was compelled, out of fear for his life, to go along. Later when matters settled down he and some others of that tribe helped the Brits bury their dead at the battle site under a white flag. He and some others were able to convey some of the details of the battle, adding to what the 1,500 wounded soldiers were able to report.

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    In some places, in a given time in history, US military occupation made sense/makes sense. Such as our involvement in Japan and Germany post WWII and in South Korea. But, any history student can tell you Afghanistan is not the place for such occupation.

    I can dig out the article for more details, but I read an accounting of the British attempt to "subdue" Afghanistan back in the 1870's. About 20,000 crack British troops invaded Afghanistan, captured Kabul fairly easily, and then entered into an alliance with "friendly" Afghan tribes to stand against an army of unfriendly tribes. About 60,000 Afghan warriors joined the Brits as they marched north to engage the enemy, an army numbering over 100,000.

    The night before the battle, emissaries of the enemy tribes bribed and coerced the friendlies to switch sides. The next day the British army of a mere 20,000 faced one of 160,000 which had them flanked and partially surrounded. A Brit rear guard of 8,000 men made a bold and heroic stand in what is one of the most incredible such last stands in military history.

    "Only the dog survived...and even he was seriously wounded." One of the Brit regiments, numbering 800 soldiers, had a dog as a mascot. After a day of brutal combat against over-whelming odds, and after inflicting an estimated 35,000 casualties on the attacking Afghans, the Brit rear guard gave way. Every officer and man of that regiment was killed in action. A 100% casualty rate. The dog was slashed by a Afghan soldier with a sword and left to die. Only he survived and was later found walking slowly on the road to Kabul by British cavalry sent to assist the remnants of the retreating rear guard. Fewer than 1,500 of the 8,000 survived, and every one of them had been wounded. The dog became a national hero once back in England, a symbol of that gallant stand by that regiment vs. impossible odds.

    The British general in command of the Afghan expedition reported to his superiors that he was pulling all his men out of that "God-forsaken country" retiring back to their bases in India. And that no nation, no matter how powerful it may be, will ever be able to subdue Afghanistan. Why won't the world listen to these sage words?
    https://youtu.be/wvQjDvnPpCk

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Yep even Stallone knows the truth: you can't defeat a people who refuse to lose. They just keep on fighting...keep on, and on, and on....

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    Re: President Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Yep even Stallone knows the truth: you can't defeat a people who refuse to lose. They just keep on fighting...keep on, and on, and on....
    Shoulda learned that in Vietnam. Once again we just postponed the inevitable at a great cost to us. They didn't care how many we killed.

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    Re: President Biden

    Democrats are scared...

    Desperate Democrats Already Bracing For A Red Wave

    We have officially hit the six month mark for the Biden administration, and it's honestly hard to put into words how badly things have become in our country, in such a short period of time.
    The list is absolutely stunning. Skyrocketing inflation, higher prices for everything, massive crime, the border crisis, and a divide in our nation that we have not seen since the Civil War.

    These are tough times, and so it's not a surprise that Republicans are counting down to next years midterms. What is a surprise? There are actually some on the left that are actually calling out the Democrats for their disastrous start.
    "The Democrats are worried, and they should be" said Bryan Preston of PJ Media, "They've had six months of power now, and they have failed to enact even a single policy that strengthens America, or helps the American people. They should expect to be bounced out of power."
    It is certainly heading in that direction. So much so that MSNBC aired recently that the Democrats should be "bracing" for a Red Wave in 2022. That's always been the norm anyway following an election, but for MSNBC, which some call MS-DNC to actually criticize their leaders is surprising.
    "It is interesting that MSNBC is starting to see this" Preston told KTRH, "Apparently they can read a poll like the rest of us can."
    And those poll numbers look really good for Republicans. "If I'm a Republican strategist, I'm not going to get cocky" Preston noted, "Yes, the signs right now are good for a red wave in the midterms. It didn't take long to undo what was already working, and I don't know what they expected to happen in the midterms? But when you come in and in effect destroy this country? You can expect the voters to respond, and to fire you."

    The countdown has begun.

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    Re: President Biden

    Never, and I mean NEVER, underestimate the GOP's ability to blow it. Besides, the Dems have cheating down to a science now, and will steal as many seats as they need.

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