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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Exactly! I see them both in the mid-bottom of the west...below Arkansas and A&M. That will be wonderful!
    I’ve heard a lot of folks say that…I think y’all are nuts. OU is a top 5 program all-time. If BAMA moves to the East, OU will be the favorite to win the West more often than not. Can’t believe some folks still buy the Jimbo hype. He’s an 8-4 guy for $9.5 mil per year!

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I’ve heard a lot of folks say that…I think y’all are nuts. OU is a top 5 program all-time. If BAMA moves to the East, OU will be the favorite to win the West more often than not. Can’t believe some folks still buy the Jimbo hype. He’s an 8-4 guy for $9.5 mil per year!
    Could be, but I'll root for for every team in the west other than lsu to beat Texas and OU.

    I can't imagine more wasted resources that Texas.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Looks like Brian Kelly to LSU.

    ND now on the clock.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Looks like Brian Kelly to LSU.

    ND now on the clock.
    Hey! Good timing for Skip. He can go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    Nope
    That's correct, and another glaring flaw in the contract.

    I don't mind paying the remaining part of the current year of salary owed through June 30 regardless of employment status. But any coach fired for cause who gets another job by the July 1 following being fired should not get paid one additional cent for time beyond that June 30 date.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I’ve heard a lot of folks say that…I think y’all are nuts. OU is a top 5 program all-time. If BAMA moves to the East, OU will be the favorite to win the West more often than not. Can’t believe some folks still buy the Jimbo hype. He’s an 8-4 guy for $9.5 mil per year!
    You could be right. However, I have to wonder how OU and Texas will perform when they have to play Auburn, lsu, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss. Miss State, Arkansas, and Kentucky aren’t pushovers every year. OU got punched in the mouth 2 times this year by a good Baylor team and a very good OSU team and lost both times. With what was supposed to be a top 10 team. How will that go for them when 6-7 games a year are that tough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    You could be right. However, I have to wonder how OU and Texas will perform when they have to play Auburn, lsu, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss. Miss State, Arkansas, and Kentucky aren’t pushovers every year. OU got punched in the mouth 2 times this year by a good Baylor team and a very good OSU team and lost both times. With what was supposed to be a top 10 team. How will that go for them when 6-7 games a year are that tough?
    Exactly why Riley took the money and ran for USC. Much easier to get into the playoff from there than it would be at Oklahoma in the SEC West. Even if Alabama and Auburn get moved to the SEC East.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Who does Notre Dame hire?

    Fickell?
    The guy at Pitt?
    Promote the DC?
    Go legacy: Holtz? 🤣

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    Who does Notre Dame hire?

    Fickell?
    The guy at Pitt?
    Promote the DC?
    Go legacy: Holtz? 藍
    Who does Tech hire? I really don't care about them except for conversation around the water cooler...but who is going to be the next Tech hire?

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Wow! (same reaction Skippy had) on Brian Kelly to LSU. He's going from the BEST college football program in the nation to a football factory, give-the-devil-his-due program. Yes, at LSU he will get NFLers willing to make a short stop to play a little college football. He will get 6-star recruits (yes, I said "6" better than the run-of-the-mill 5's other schools get) and he will have a chance, if he can beat Bama, to play for an SEC championship and thus a lock for the CFP every season. There are no academic, moral, ethical standards at LSU that will hinder his recruiting.

    When I say Notre Dame is the BEST college football program in the nation, I don't mean just "on the field." That title belongs to Bama and there are others hovering just around and below them, like Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, and a few others. ND is the BEST because of their standards and history, tradition and keeping in place what is truly important, football players are STUDENT-athletes.

    So, if you are a football coach who longs to play for national championships, to test your mettle vs. Nick Saban and coaches like him, Notre Dame is a tough place to do that. That is why Brian Kelly, the football coach, is heading to LSU. I understand that aspect of it. Kelly has done well at ND....and all you haters can stick it...and I hope ND never changes. Keep the high standards for true STUDENT-athletes and do the best you can.

    One thing is for sure, Brian Kelly is in for culture shock!

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    On the Texas and OU move - first I will say I don't like either one of them. After that statement, though, I think they will be fine in the SEC a couple of years after they officially start in the conference. They will be able to recruit the best with the SEC name. I do not think they will be competitive right away, though.

    Personally I hope Texas fails miserably, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    On the Texas and OU move - first I will say I don't like either one of them. After that statement, though, I think they will be fine in the SEC a couple of years after they officially start in the conference. They will be able to recruit the best with the SEC name. I do not think they will be competitive right away, though.

    Personally I hope Texas fails miserably, though.
    aTm has always been pretty good in football, and that's what they are today...pretty good. Mizzou has always been BLAH! in football, and that's what they are. Neither has realized a bounty moving to the SEC. I see no changes for UT and OU. In fact, I predict a Nebraska-like fall into the abyss for both programs. Keep in mind traditions and loyalty and where high school kids want to play, and why they want to play there. Like Nebraska, UT and OU, are severing the connections to those traditions and kids who might have loved to play there for the old Big 12/SWC legacy, may not want to play in the SEC.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    aTm has always been pretty good in football, and that's what they are today...pretty good. Mizzou has always been BLAH! in football, and that's what they are. Neither has realized a bounty moving to the SEC. I see no changes for UT and OU. In fact, I predict a Nebraska-like fall into the abyss for both programs. Keep in mind traditions and loyalty and where high school kids want to play, and why they want to play there. Like Nebraska, UT and OU, are severing the connections to those traditions and kids who might have loved to play there for the old Big 12/SWC legacy, may not want to play in the SEC.
    Texas/OU caused all the conference realignment fallout crap we have now. I hope they lose, lose, and lose some more.

    Going to the SEC where they both will be middle of the pack teams is the perfect way to end all your actual historic rivalries in Texas, the SWC, and the Big-12. I’ve talked to actual alums from Texas. Not one of them thought this was a good move. In the Big-12, Texas was the premiere school. In the SEC, they aren’t even close to the top.

    I hope the SEC becomes too big and unwieldy for its own good. They think they are the NCAA and they are riding the high horse now. Bringing them down a few notches is what college athletics needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Wow! (same reaction Skippy had) on Brian Kelly to LSU. He's going from the BEST college football program in the nation to a football factory, give-the-devil-his-due program. Yes, at LSU he will get NFLers willing to make a short stop to play a little college football. He will get 6-star recruits (yes, I said "6" better than the run-of-the-mill 5's other schools get) and he will have a chance, if he can beat Bama, to play for an SEC championship and thus a lock for the CFP every season. There are no academic, moral, ethical standards at LSU that will hinder his recruiting.

    When I say Notre Dame is the BEST college football program in the nation, I don't mean just "on the field." That title belongs to Bama and there are others hovering just around and below them, like Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, and a few others. ND is the BEST because of their standards and history, tradition and keeping in place what is truly important, football players are STUDENT-athletes.

    So, if you are a football coach who longs to play for national championships, to test your mettle vs. Nick Saban and coaches like him, Notre Dame is a tough place to do that. That is why Brian Kelly, the football coach, is heading to LSU. I understand that aspect of it. Kelly has done well at ND....and all you haters can stick it...and I hope ND never changes. Keep the high standards for true STUDENT-athletes and do the best you can.

    One thing is for sure, Brian Kelly is in for culture shock!
    LSU AD Scott Woodward loves spending other people’s money. At $10M/year for 10 years, he overpaid for Kelly. USA Today says Kelly’s base at ND was $2.7M. But even if he had incentives that got him up to $4M-$5M, LSU paid too much.

    Woodward is also the guy that brought Jimbo to A&M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    LSU AD Scott Woodward loves spending other people’s money. At $10M/year for 10 years, he overpaid for Kelly. USA Today says Kelly’s base at ND was $2.7M. But even if he had incentives that got him up to $4M-$5M, LSU paid too much.

    Woodward is also the guy that brought Jimbo to A&M.
    Wow. Thats significant pay bump. Almost criminal to be able to throw money around that easily.

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