Pac2/MWC considering Relegation style conferneces

[sportdawg]

Promotion/relegation in college football? Game-changing idea could help save Pac-12 (msn.com)

I think this would be an awesome idea nationally, but doubtful that it would ever happen.

My idea is group the P5/G5 regionally (it doesn't have to be grouped by these conferences, but just giving an idea)

Pac/MWC
B10/MAC
Big 12/SBC
SEC/CUSA
SEC/AAC

Every year in each P5 conference the bottom school moves down and the top G5 team moves up. The 2nd Worst P5 & 2nd Best G5 meet in a bowl game to determine if the G5 team moves up or stays where it is.

This would generate some interest IMO, which should generate more $$$.

[dawg80]

Promotion/relegation in college football? Game-changing idea could help save Pac-12 (msn.com)

I think this would be an awesome idea nationally, but doubtful that it would ever happen.

My idea is group the P5/G5 regionally (it doesn't have to be grouped by these conferences, but just giving an idea)

Pac/MWC
B10/MAC
Big 12/SBC
SEC/CUSA
SEC/AAC

Every year in each P5 conference the bottom school moves down and the top G5 team moves up. The 2nd Worst P5 & 2nd Best G5 meet in a bowl game to determine if the G5 team moves up or stays where it is.

This would generate some interest IMO, which should generate more $$$.

Like most, if not all, the European soccer associations do.

[qng001]

When you move up to P5, do you get P5 money? Also, if you get regulated do you lose your money?

[revf]

Would love this idea.

Especially for football. It lets the P5 still be “elite” and yet gives G5 something to strive for.

Everyone loves the Wrexham storylines.

[sportdawg]

When you move up to P5, do you get P5 money? Also, if you get regulated do you lose your money?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/college-football-gets-first-relegation-and-promotion-proposal/ar-AA1h0JHM
I saw another article (not this one) that brought up that subject

[ProfStudent158]

When you move up to P5, do you get P5 money? Also, if you get regulated do you lose your money?

That’s how it works in European soccer. The tv money that comes with promotion to the English Premier League is something like £120,000,000 per year. Would be great if all college and pro sports in the U.S. were setup this way, but it’ll never happen. It would make the sports merit based and eliminate tanking in pro sports.

[GonzoDawg]

It's a great idea. I think most fans would love to see some stabilization in the conferences. This is an idea that could help.

[Blue Dawg]

The 22-slide PowerPoint, obtained and reviewed by Front Office Sports, has been shared with athletic directors in and outside of the conference, as well as with Mountain West Commissioner Gloria Nevarez.

I'd very much like to see the presentation.

[weunice]

I think everyone in the lower conferences is for this because it creates the REAL possibility of mobility by effort and success (imagine that). I hated back in the day when we would win 9 games and get shut out of a bowl. It is hard to build a program without the hope of presenting a path of real success based on things you can control.

[Blue Dawg]

I think everyone in the lower conferences is for this because it creates the REAL possibility of mobility by effort and success (imagine that). I hated back in the day when we would win 9 games and get shut out of a bowl. It is hard to build a program without the hope of presenting a path of real success based on things you can control.

If I'm in a higher conference, why would I go for this?

[sportdawg]

If I'm in a higher conference, why would I go for this?

You wouldn't, of course, unless there was more money thrown at you.

Let's say you're a 16-team SEC and Apple says we'll pay $30 million extra (10% on top of what they already get) - does that move the needle? With potential of 1-2 moving down to G5.

I think the only way it would work is if the G5 money came up and schools that dropped had a guaranteed (declining) amount coming the 3-4 years after they went down.

I do think it's smart for Oregon State & Washington State to do this so they can protect the $ coming in the next few years. Pac/MWC would need to add 2 more schools or have other conferences involved.

[sportdawg]

I think this would be great for all sports / especially if we could get the olympic sports regionalized again, but of course the $$$ would have to be right.

In basketball/baseball etc, you do 3 levels using conference overall ratings

10-11 groups of 3 as regional as possible or 8 groups of 4.

Here is last year's Basketball Conference RPI Conference RPI - 2023 Men's College Basketball | WarrenNolan.com

[sportdawg]

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ball-look-like

OK, sounds great, but how would the money work?

That's a very good question, one that's impossible to answer just yet.


In theory, a Mountain West with more good programs and more high-interest matchups commands a better media rights deal than what it is currently working with, but the league would have to figure out what percentage to distribute to each tier. It would also have to decide on things like "parachute payments" -- a Premier League system in which relegated teams receive a percentage of top-tier money (diminishing each year) to assure that the financial impact of falling off the ladder isn't quite as much of a shock.


There's also the issue of a school trying to draw up an athletic budget flexible enough to account for the sudden loss of a few million dollars it was planning on having. Obviously soccer clubs do this annually -- sometimes they do this very poorly and end up with serious issues -- and everyone would adapt, but there would be quite a bit of short-term awkwardness.

[revf]

The teams against relegation are teams like Rutgers (the absolute worst team in college football year in and year out all they do is feed on the success of others in the Big10), Vanderbilt, and Miss State.

Teams that ride other's coattails.

Meanwhile, you have teams like Tulane, Memphis, Georgia State, and UCF that would jump at the chance to have promotion/relegation. Can you imagine Tulane being promoted back to the SEC for their success???

It would actually introduce a lot more excitement (and intrigue) into college athletics with the NIL and Transfer Market. Might as well go all the way and add promotion/relegation! Makes EVERY game important.

[DD Dawg]

It would be a great idea coming from our side! But the whole point is the P5 doesn’t want us anywhere near them that might spoil the applecart!!