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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

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    There are 17 All-CUSA players currently in the portal. We see it every year. Top Group of 5 players are eager to move up.


    But how did G5-to-P5 transfers pay off in 2023? Well, 72% played fewer snaps and 37% have started zero games. Are they better off?
    A stat I would want to know if I was a G5 HC.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
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    There are 17 All-CUSA players currently in the portal. We see it every year. Top Group of 5 players are eager to move up.


    But how did G5-to-P5 transfers pay off in 2023? Well, 72% played fewer snaps and 37% have started zero games. Are they better off?
    I bet they are financially. At least for the ones without a real shot at the NFL.

    Especially linemen. A G5 OL with experience and a pulse can go get some NIL money and the P5 general treatment with waterfalls in the locker room and all of that to be a back-up from what I've heard (which you should take with a big grain of salt). The market is there for them.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Want to see year 2. Do these players benefit from better training and coaching and earn the starting job in year 2? Or do the 5 star true freshman and redshirt freshman still start over them?

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Want to see year 2. Do these players benefit from better training and coaching and earn the starting job in year 2? Or do the 5 star true freshman and redshirt freshman still start over them?
    Yeah, I do think it will be interesting to see all the details after a little more time with the transfer rules in place and the COVID era super-seniors and recruiting class cycled through. I think in most cases we'd rather have kept everyone who we've lost to the transfer portal through the last few years if only for depth. And some of these players would have made a big impact for us. Of course, we'd have to balance those what-ifs against all the players we've had transfer in during that period as well (all things considered, I think Louisiana Tech was clearly better off under the old rules, but those rules are gone and we have to adapt to the new reality the best we can - and that will mean a big group out and a big group in every year).

    Occasionally (even pre-portal) I'll get curious and try to go look up what happened to players who transferred out. I think on the whole it's roughly what we might have predicted. A lot go down to FCS and some seem to thrive there and some don't really ever see the field even at a lower level. Some go P5 and never play (or wash out). Seems like a lot that go to another peer(ish) G5 kind of disappear as well. I don't know that players totally understand how transferring can effect development. I think they mostly just see the big success cases.

    It also seems like a lot of the players who transfer out tend to transfer again from that next stop (at least once). The kid we signed from Mesquite (in the same class as Smoke Harris) who was one of our highest rated signees ever and then didn't make it through summer camp - Wren. He eventually ended up at Texas State, where I don't think he ever recorded a stat, and then ended up at OU as a DL (also without seeming to have seen the field). I don't know anything about his story, and I hope he got multiple degrees and had a great college experience on the whole - but that kind of thing seems fairly common.

    I don't know. I guess like you I'd like to see a really comprehensive evaluation of the whole thing (which given the money involved is almost certainly in the works from someone). But with COVID seniors (and even just that signing class) skewing the data and the fact that it's all still a fairly new world overall, we do need more data.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    We lost like 23 guys last year, right? Quick glance tells me most ended up FCS.

    Tre Harris at Ole Miss and Rose at Arkansas both went "up" in status - with Harris a big contributor (3rd WR maybe?) and Rose playing some (seems like a depth guy but did have a couple of tackles, I'm sure they rotate DL a lot).

    Grubbs at Tulane is still a tackling machine apparently, and they had a really good season. Spears played at Memphis. Lyddy played a little as backup at UAB. So those stayed G5, would have helped us to varying degrees I think (and had varying degrees of playing time and success at the new school). Villanueva to UConn, but doesn't seem to have played (for a bad team).

    Washington ended up at a juco. Bean at Grambling. Downing seems to have played for Elon. Lyles looks to have ended up at Southern. Gordan at Alcorn State. Shaw to Prairie View. Fisher to Nichols. Saw a Div II school and at least one NAIA on there as well.


    I'm not looking everyone up, but just in like 5 minutes of googling it seems a mixed bag (for each of them and for us).

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Any signees today?

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Allen, White, Bruno got backup roles at P5s.

    Bachmeier to Wake Forest is a pass.

    the others are (including baby Barnes) out of luck.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by revf View Post
    Allen, White, Bruno got backup roles at P5s.

    Bachmeier to Wake Forest is a pass.

    the others are (including baby Barnes) out of luck.
    So we’re not signing any HS kids. I watch the portal every day.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    So we’re not signing any HS kids. I watch the portal every day.
    I count eight.

    https://247sports.com/college/louisi...tball/Commits/

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    we signed the #1 JUCO QB according to 24/7
    Ty Keyes, East Mississippi C.C., Quarterback (247sports.com)

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    We also lost Zeon Chriss

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by thewyldman View Post
    We also lost Zeon Chriss
    we are not ull

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    See where John Simon IV signed. Hopefully his brother will follow next year.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

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    Sonny Cumbie said #LATech hopes to add 10 more players to its class between JUCO and transfers by the February signing period. Not counting six transfers already committed.

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    Re: Transfer Portal 2023

    And should have Crosby and Willis back this spring. Dang, I can’t give up on us still. After all we have been through, how do us lifers hang on?

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