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    The Highwater Mark

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBkaK0J-6F0

    Holtz's highwater mark, finished 10-3, 6th straight bowl win. Since then Tech Football is 0-2 in bowls and have had 5 straight losing seasons.

    What does 2025 hold?

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Not expecting much. We hired a dud of a coach and locked in due to penalties if we let him go early.

    I think many fans are waiting for the next hire. If he does well this season, Tech fans won't be too miserable.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    Not expecting much. We hired a dud of a coach and locked in due to penalties if we let him go early.

    I think many fans are waiting for the next hire. If he does well this season, Tech fans won't be too miserable.
    It'll be fine. I no longer feel the need to restructure my weekend around Tech games. Very freeing. If Tech does well, good. If not, who cares anymore

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    It'll be fine. I no longer feel the need to restructure my weekend around Tech games. Very freeing. If Tech does well, good. If not, who cares anymore
    You've swallowed a bitter pill, Blue Dawg, but that's often the pill that heals. Then there is always Romans 8:28.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by OLDBLUE View Post
    You've swallowed a bitter pill, Blue Dawg, but that's often the pill that heals. Then there is always Romans 8:28.
    So true, Oldblue!

    I'll probably still be on here to bitch about the games, of course. Just doesn't occupy much of my life anymore.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    The next hire is very important for Ivey/Henderson. We can't afford to have back-to-back bad hires. Also, having a guy who came from a power school doesn't impress me much. They tend to not fit our culture (Dooley, Dykes) and always looking a way out of here when they step foot on campus.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by OLDBLUE View Post
    You've swallowed a bitter pill, Blue Dawg, but that's often the pill that heals. Then there is always Romans 8:28.
    Dern! the Romans lost 28-8? Went for 2 on their TD.


    sorry...bad joke. (disregard)

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    By this time of the year I used to have hotels reserved for the two games (at least) I would travel half way across the country to attend. Now I haven't even considered it and didn't go last year. Funny how something I used to plan my fall and vacation time around is just non-existent anymore.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBkaK0J-6F0

    Holtz's highwater mark, finished 10-3, 6th straight bowl win. Since then Tech Football is 0-2 in bowls and have had 5 straight losing seasons.

    What does 2025 hold?
    That's a 12-1 or 11-2 team without out best players getting suspended for weed. Just goes to show even when every thing is in our favor we will figure out how to mess it up.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by RUBLUE View Post
    By this time of the year I used to have hotels reserved for the two games (at least) I would travel half way across the country to attend. Now I haven't even considered it and didn't go last year. Funny how something I used to plan my fall and vacation time around is just non-existent anymore.
    We've created a death spiral.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Have y'all seen the TV viewership numbers posted on the CUSA board? According to the numbers, Tech was dead last amongst all G6 schools with an average TV audience of 3K. That is 3,000. Even ulm was at 7K, twice our numbers. Yes, the opponents play a big role in any school's TV audience. If Tech were to play Notre Dame, for instance, the TV audience would be in the millions...at least until the middle of 2nd qtr when folks would tune out of the slaughter.

    And you can't make the argument that well, it's all those weeknight games vs. crappy opponents. First, we are the CRAPPY opponent in that equation. And besides, other CUSA schools have way better numbers, and they all play weeknight games.

    Our 2012 game vs. aTm with Johnny Manziel at QB, was one of the top 5 most watched games that year, as I recall. Coach Crummy has killed Tech football.

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    Skip needed to be let go, considering he checked out his last couple years here. He was notoriously bad at finishing games and cost us at least 1 or 2 wins a year because of that. It was time for him to go.

    That said, if we all knew that the administration was going to make this disastrous hire to follow Skip, I for one would have said just sign Skip to a lifetime contract and let him ride off into the sunset with 6, 7, and 8 win seasons for the most part, and let him retire after 15-20 years with the Dawgs.

    For all of Skip's faults, he was a million times better than this clownery we have now. I sure miss that 6 bowl-wins-in-a-row streak.

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    With that said, giving Skip Holtz credit where I can, it was Derek Dooley that lit the fire in my Tech fandom. I was a teenager in those days still trying to figure out if I was a ULM fan (my dad is an alumnus), if I was going to be an LSU fan, or Tech. Dooley knew how to pump up the fanbase. He only had that one good year (7-5 and an Independence Bowl win) in 2007-2008, and then he was hired away to Tennessee (and what a disaster that was!), BUT ...

    Dooley knew how to get the fanbase energized and to have pride in their institution.

    Fast forward to Coach Sonny Dyke's "High Octane" offense, and that it was! He started coaching my Freshman year at Tech, and I went to all the games I could. The student section was pretty raucous back in those days (at least a lot better as I remember it, compared to a few years later when I went to games as an alumnus). We had a lot to cheer for with that offense! The only bad memory I have of the Dykes years was the 2012 no-bowl-game-debacle, but that wasn't his fault. His 9-3 record that year was a dream for me as a young Tech fan desirous of realistic expectations.

    Then of course comes recent history with Holtz. Three 9-win seasons and a 10-win season? Miles ahead of where we are now. I was fairly happy with him, although as so many have expressed on this board, a better game managing coach probably would have gotten us to 10, 11, and 12 win seasons those years, with the talent we had. (I'm thinking back fondly to the Dawgzilla Board showing all the former players in the NFL -- It was quite a decent number! Gotta be much lower now, right???)

    Anyways, Skip wasn't the best game-managing coach, but at least he recruited well, his players loved him, and I'd take him back in a heartbeat compared to Cumbie.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Skip really messed up by doing a favor and bringing in David Blackwell, guy was just terrible as DC. Hard to believe he didn’t stick with the kind of hire he made before, like Manny Diaz or Bob Diaco. Would’ve been way better if he’d gone big again and tried to groom the next Blake Baker.

    The bad DC hire really tanked him.

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    Re: The Highwater Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    Skip really messed up by doing a favor and bringing in David Blackwell, guy was just terrible as DC. Hard to believe he didn’t stick with the kind of hire he made before, like Manny Diaz or Bob Diaco. Would’ve been way better if he’d gone big again and tried to groom the next Blake Baker.

    The bad DC hire really tanked him.
    Good point and one of several mistakes made by Holtz.

    Holtz never had to deal with NIL or the portal. He completely tanked for his last three years following successful seasons. Instead of building on that success and getting better or even staying average he went down.

    I'm not a Cumbie fan and thought the hire was questionable at best, but nobody imagined what NIL and the portal would do to the game when he was hired. It's nowhere close to the same game Holtz was coaching.

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