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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    You can try to spin this any way you want but doesn't change the basic fact that our great experiment, our sojourn into the great wild spaces of college athletics has utterly failed. Yes, being relegated back into the gutter with the same schools we left 25 years ago is nothing but a stark reminder of that failure. And you say CUSA is full of schools "we don't care about," yet you are now okay with rejoining schools "we don't care about" which is why we left them 25 years ago.

    I love it "regional and historical rivals." Which is why we couldn't wait to get away from them 25 years ago! Nope, this is nothing but a complete and total collapse. Tech does deserve to be cast back into the gutter because of our total failures. Not arguing that, but don't pretend this is somehow a good thing.
    The WAC years were the best football years since my student days, so I don't have a problem with the 25 years of wondering in the wilds.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Weren't you one of those advocating distancing ourselves from the likes of the UL-Xs?
    Sure I was. But, we had that opportunity and BLEW IT, a long time ago. That horse is not only out of the barn, but now the barn has been burned down.

    Surely you recognize that?

    LA Tech needs to resurrect almost our entire athletic department. Hey....don't blame me, I didn't do it. But joining the Sunbelt should be a nice kick in the pants to get things rolling again.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Sure I was. But, we had that opportunity and BLEW IT, a long time ago. That horse is not only out of the barn, but now the barn has been burned down.

    Surely you recognize that?

    LA Tech needs to resurrect almost our entire athletic department. Hey....don't blame me, I didn't do it. But joining the Sunbelt should be a nice kick in the pants to get things rolling again.
    I recognize a lot.

    Try this image on for size....

    Tech is an old, divorced dude now seeking solace with exes from his college days. As for this dude's life, "It is better to have loved and lost rather than to never have loved at all."

    Tech sought better things for its athletics, joined the WAC when it was very attractive with the then Eastern WAC which included Rice, SMU, and Tulsa. It was a good move, the right move at the time. Unfortunately, the EWAC left us, divorced us! Then the rest of the WAC, with the likes of Boazy, Fresno, Nevada, also divorced us. We joined CUSA, then a major divorce occurred, we lost 9 "girlfriends" including UNT and USM.

    So now...the old Tech dude is limping back into the arms of old "girlfriends" he left 30 years ago. Pretty pathetic, actually. But, the old divorced Tech dude still had a choice, but rejected a new "girlfriend," CUSA now, in favor of his older ones.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Now, all of that said above, here's a more positive spin. The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one. Maybe Tech's return to the Belch is that admission and this can be (with an emphasis on CAN) an opportunity to right the ship.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    I only have one question:
    Would Dr. Jarrell be in attendance at yesterday's presser . . . if he were still alive?
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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Good article by Malcolm. He nails it.

    https://lincolnparishjournal.com/202...with-sun-belt/

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Good article by Malcolm. He nails it.

    https://lincolnparishjournal.com/202...with-sun-belt/
    Essentially what most of us have been saying. Malcolm must read this board and the CUSA Forum for his material. The only difference, slight though it may be, is the "joy" expressed rejoining our old 1970's Southland Conference foes. It is reality, true, but one doesn't have to rejoice in it.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    I'd imagine the SBC will look different in a few years. We need to make sure we have allies during our time in this conference.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    I'd imagine the SBC will look different in a few years. We need to make sure we have allies during our time in this conference.
    That's the only true benefit of this move. I think the SBC is destined to split east-west and the SBC West will then have to pick up some schools to remain or perhaps form a new viable conference. Schools like Sam Houston State and maybe WKU and MTSU, MO State too would all be strong candidates to fill out a "regional" league.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Sun Belt West American "West" CUSA "West"
    Tech Tulsa NMSU
    Ark St UTSA Sam Houston
    UL-L Rice Missouri St
    ULM Tulane WKU
    S Alabama Memphis MTSU
    USM UAB
    Troy UNT
    Sun Belt East American "East" CUSA "East"
    App St Temple Jax St
    Coastal USF Delaware
    Ga. Southern FAU FIU
    Ga. St Charlotte Liberty
    JMU ECU Kennesaw St
    Marshall
    ODU
    Army, Navy are FB only
    Wichita St (non-FB)




    I think the AAC will have some departures eventually. Right now the exit fee is $10 million with a 27-month notice. SMU paid $25 million to leave early. I want to be aligned with Texas schools.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    The AAC will likely keep backfilling with schools from major media markets to maintain that old Metro Conference vibe. Not sure who their next targets might be.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    In the WAC we were the eastern-most school, now in the SBC we will be the western-most school, albeit only slightly. Not exactly stranded on an island though. So, that's good. Ya see, I'm trying to put the best possible spin on this move

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    In the WAC we were the eastern-most school, now in the SBC we will be the western-most school, albeit only slightly. Not exactly stranded on an island though. So, that's good. Ya see, I'm trying to put the best possible spin on this move
    I am keying off of the last stmt "...I'm trying to put the best possible spin on this move". I am truthfully trying to understand why some are either so against this move to SBC, see it as a step back, etc. Granted, our football team stinks and will continue to do so until we can the coach. I could go off on that as well as a few other coaches that I hope are gone sooner rather than later. With that said, based on the previous comments from many on this board, our attendance at the FB games has been less than stellar, as well as the excitement around the games, etc. Being very simplistic, with adding ULM, ULL, USM, etc back into our mix, I can easily see a much better attendance, likely more buildup and excitement around the games, renewed rivalries, etc. Basically, I see this as breathing life back into a dying patient, or at least a vehicle to where we begin to have a pulse again. I think this would translate not only in FB but also into basketball, etc. I would submit that with the state of our team, we may not like the results from FB in the short term, but at least people would care again about the result, etc. So trying to understand the other side of the argument, what am I missing? It seems that all I have seen on this board forever is people dogging CUSA and our involvement (which I agreed with), so why aren't people more excited about this? Appreciate to hear other viewpoints and dialog.

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    Re: Tech to SBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by jycww View Post
    I am keying off of the last stmt "...I'm trying to put the best possible spin on this move". I am truthfully trying to understand why some are either so against this move to SBC, see it as a step back, etc. Granted, our football team stinks and will continue to do so until we can the coach. I could go off on that as well as a few other coaches that I hope are gone sooner rather than later. With that said, based on the previous comments from many on this board, our attendance at the FB games has been less than stellar, as well as the excitement around the games, etc. Being very simplistic, with adding ULM, ULL, USM, etc back into our mix, I can easily see a much better attendance, likely more buildup and excitement around the games, renewed rivalries, etc. Basically, I see this as breathing life back into a dying patient, or at least a vehicle to where we begin to have a pulse again. I think this would translate not only in FB but also into basketball, etc. I would submit that with the state of our team, we may not like the results from FB in the short term, but at least people would care again about the result, etc. So trying to understand the other side of the argument, what am I missing? It seems that all I have seen on this board forever is people dogging CUSA and our involvement (which I agreed with), so why aren't people more excited about this? Appreciate to hear other viewpoints and dialog.
    I am in total agreement with your logic.

    The landscape of college athletics has changed with the whole NIL thing, and being in a more regional conference is the way to go.

    I will miss being in a conference with WKU, though.

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