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    Re: Global Warming Cont...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydawg View Post
    So are you saying there is no definitive scientific testing proving that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?
    No, just saying that 99.9% of the climate scientists say that it is and if you want t know why it is do a google search. I don't think unless you do some research on this area that you will accept the fact that gw is occurring and is because we are burning large amounts of fossil fuels.:icon_wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    No, just saying that 99.9% of the climate scientists say that it is and if you want t know why it is do a google search. I don't think unless you do some research on this area that you will accept the fact that gw is occurring and is because we are burning large amounts of fossil fuels.:icon_wink:
    As I have already stated, I do believe that gw is occuring, and can believe that man is contributing to it. However, I'm perplexed as to why this climatologist would make such a statement that CO2 is not even a greenhouse gas when there is scientific evidence other than scientists coming to a general agreement that they will consider it a greenhouse gas. As far as asking for any information on the subject from you, I'm not very good at researching especially on the internet, so I thought you might have something in your cut and paste archive that you would share with me to save me from looking for it myself. Obviously, you don't. Apparently, you are taking the word of these scientists that CO2 is a greenhouse gas without your having to see the scientific documentation of how they arrived at that conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydawg View Post
    As I have already stated, I do believe that gw is occuring, and can believe that man is contributing to it. However, I'm perplexed as to why this climatologist would make such a statement that CO2 is not even a greenhouse gas when there is scientific evidence other than scientists coming to a general agreement that they will consider it a greenhouse gas. As far as asking for any information on the subject from you, I'm not very good at researching especially on the internet, so I thought you might have something in your cut and paste archive that you would share with me to save me from looking for it myself. Obviously, you don't. Apparently, you are taking the word of these scientists that CO2 is a greenhouse gas without your having to see the scientific documentation of how they arrived at that conclusion.
    Well, DD, now that you put it like that, I will do some research on it report back to you in a little bit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Well, DD, now that you put it like that, I will do some research on it report back to you in a little bit..
    Thanks, salty. I need to be informed on all this so that when I run for office, I won't be caught unawares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydawg View Post
    Thanks, salty. I need to be informed on all this so that when I run for office, I won't be caught unawares.
    DD, I think this is what your are looking for. It's a bit long and detailed but gives you the historical background to the issue of global warming.

    http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    No, just saying that 99.9% of the climate scientists say that it is and if you want t know why it is do a google search. I don't think unless you do some research on this area that you will accept the fact that gw is occurring and is because we are burning large amounts of fossil fuels.:icon_wink:
    Salty...

    Just how did you arrive at that 99.9% number? There are lot's of bonafide climate scientists that disagree. Are you saying that they make up only 0.01%???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pup60 View Post
    Salty...

    Just how did you arrive at that 99.9% number? There are lot's of bonafide climate scientists that disagree. Are you saying that they make up only 0.01%???
    My math isn't that good. If you have 2000 scientists say increasing levels of CO2 are increasong our average global temperature, and you have 6 who say that it isn't what percentage do you come up with?

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    Ok Bill, my bad. Its 99.7% of all climate scientists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Dogtor, Timothy Ball claims that CO2 is not causing global warming and yet he doesn't explain what is. Don't you find that a bit strange?
    I'm typing this real slow so you'll get it/(j.k)...straight out of the article:

    These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

    Have you ever taken a stats class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    My math isn't that good. If you have 2000 scientists say increasing levels of CO2 are increasong our average global temperature, and you have 6 who say that it isn't what percentage do you come up with?
    and the source for the vast majority of the CO2 increase is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by altadawg View Post
    I'll give one example. There are hundreds.

    Do any of you guys like seafood? Crab, Tuna, Shrimp, Halibut? Not to mention all the wonderful local food from the Gulf region?

    Gone. Done. Absolutely will NOT be available in 2 to 3 generations. Species and the sub-species that they feed one are dying off. They are losing areas to breed in because of GW and pollution factors.

    Have you guys ever heard of the dead zones in the Gulf and in Parts of the Chesapeake, and in others areas of the world? Growing fast. Or the balls of garbage, some the size of small cities, that have been found floating in the Pacific? I only wish I was kidding.

    Plus, consumption is forcing too much fishing. Only two things can result. Incredibly high prices with serious cull restrictions, or existinct spieces. Either way, not good.
    i agree 100% that we need to reduce real pollution. but fish dying has nothing to do with global warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    I'm typing this real slow so you'll get it/(j.k)...straight out of the article:

    These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

    Have you ever taken a stats class?
    Dogtor, what is unusual is the the rapid increase in the atmospheric CO2 levels. Nothing like it has happen before as far we know, at least the last 750,000 years. Mebbe in the last 10 million years but we are talking about what is going on "out of the ordinary". To say the current gw is "normal variability" is total BS.

    And yes I've taken a stats class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    and the source for the vast majority of the CO2 increase is?
    You know, all those coal-fired power plants around the world and all those cars burning gasoline and diesel not to mention those fertilzer plants and those petro-chemical plants and those steel plants and coke plants.

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    Re: Global Warming Cont...

    Of the 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth's atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth's oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.

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    At 368 parts per million CO2 is a minor constituent of earth's atmosphere-- less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present. Compared to former geologic times, earth's current atmosphere is CO2- impoverished.

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